How many microbes is too much

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So i am about to give no till growing a try, i am using pro mix bx which has myko and bio fungus, i got some natures own living super soil concentrate, after some research i learned that the natures own has a bad habit of running out before a photo plant can finish its run and they then suggest brewing something up, so instead got some extreme gardening myko, and i got raw npk grow and bloom phase microbes to make up the difference, i have been leaning towards getting some recharge to use, but am i adding to many microbes to my 7 gal fabric pots? I can’t really find info on how much is to much, hope you guys can help me on this. The genetics i will be using for the grow came from seedsmen themselves.

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JustCoolin on March 6, 2020 at 9:46 am

Microbes won’t run out. Also diversity is key with adding microbes. No need to add too much of one type of microbe but adding lots of diverse microbes is beneficial. Sounds more like you’ll need a top dress of the living soil concentrate during the grow cycle. Possibly brewing a nutrient tea instead of just a compost tea.

green ghost on March 6, 2020 at 8:53 pm

i dont brew waste of time and a mess i dont want or need and there are almost 35 kinds of bacteria and fungi i am adding, not to much of any type thanks. microbes will run out if you dont feed them, why would i top dress with living soil if i have already added it to the mix, and like i said it has issues at the end not in the grow phase, i take it youve never used any of the items i am talking about
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- JustCoolin on March 6, 2020 at 10:55 pm
  
  You mentioned the concentrate running out. I figured you were talking about this product https://www.natureslivingsoil.com/our-juice which is a soil amendment pack that supplies food for microbes to breakdown in order to feed your plants. When this amendment runs out your plants won’t have enough to finish. This is why I mentioned possibly top dressing during the growth cycle to supply enough plant required nutrients for the plants to complete their cycle. They take time to be made into a plant available source, so using at the end would not be beneficial to this cycle. You can supply microbes with many food sources but they won’t in turn be able to produce necessary plant nutrients. They will even eat each other and eventually can go dormant until conditions are beneficial for reproduction. All I meant by the number of microbes was to address your post question of “how many microbes is too much”. There are 10s of 1000s of different soil microbes.
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SOUP on March 8, 2020 at 5:02 pm

So that “living soil” product you are talking about is very different than the actual living soil we are typically using with no til growing…

That product is basically a top dressing kit, with a bunch of dry amendments and microbe supplements blended into some compost. Not saying its a bad product or it wont work, but you should understand its a very different approach than the typical living soil / no till style of grow that is based around maintaining soil balance.

True “no till” / “living soil” growing is all about starting with a high quality balanced soil and using light topdressing to maintain that balance.

The product you listed might be a useful topdressing amendment, but if you are serious about learning no-til style gardening I highly recommend you start with a better quality soil than the stuff they recommend.

As far as microbes….

Its really hard to over do it. It basically comes down to cost. Its good to add a variety of microbes from different sources, but at a certain point diminishing returns kicks in and it stops being worth the cost to add more.

Remember tho…Microbes can help with food availability, but they aren’t a food source. If you are worried about running out of nutrients, then you need to add more nutrients to your mix, not just more microbes.

green ghost on March 9, 2020 at 10:07 pm

thank you for all the great info you have shared with me in the emails, gave me a whole new perspective on how this no till works, thank you for getting me on the correct path.
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