hey dudes big fan of your show I’ve learned many ways to up my game from you all. so many factors in play it has my head spinning I’m hoping you might be able to help minimize it to one or two factors that are causing this mess. so 2 strains gorilla cookies and rainbow candy from growers choice. they are in build a soil 3.0 mix which burned the sh*t out of them. When I first transplanted. they recovered in a week or so sort of they were still overused. now it’s 6 weeks still veg in 5 gallon smarties. they looked fine about a week and a half ago in the 5×5 scrog. just got moved in the 4×8 and about 5 days ago I top-dressed with craft blend and build a flower from b.a.s. I also think I overwatered that same day im used to growing in 15 gallon pots but I’m on a pheno hunt. temp 75 humidity 50. plenty of air flow and under 2 hlg 650r at about 150 watts each. def bleached them a bit which is causing me to doubt if its a nitro deficiency or bleaching. now it looks like an extreme calcium deficiency but I do t know how that’s possible I use tap water pH 7. not new to growing but never seen this before. any ideas???? thanks boys keep up the good work!
5gl is too small for 6 weeks. Consider liquids or repotting to 15+ in the same soil.
Spots make me think calcium for sure. Coach is dead on on 6 weeks. I use BAS and all the ingredients you mentioned and have not had burn. Up the pot. Add some cal. I think that will help.
I think most folks use 7 to 10 gals as a final in this type of setup… They look undernourished for sure.
Yup this is kinda the problem with small pots and living soil. It’s just super hard to keep things nutritionally balanced without a decent volume of soil to help buffer the system and keep things healthy.
The 3.0 mix is heavily enriched and was likely too much food for small plants causing the burn. (Over fed)
Then as the plants grow, all that food quickly gets gobbled up because the pots are too small and things swing the other way. (Under fed)
By the time you start trying to fix the issue the plant is already stressed and the soil balance is totally out of wack. there’s not enough soil volume for a healthy living system, so getting things balanced again becomes a never ending battle.
So yeah, I would try liquid food for the rest of this run and switch to bigger pots (or grow smaller plants) next run.
Im also trying to figure out how to successfully pheno hunt with smaller pots of living soil and it’s been challenging. So far the biggest lesson I’ve learned is to put plants into flower while they are still very small.
If you want to push the limits by using smaller pots, the easiest way to make it work is by keeping the plants a whole lot smaller. It’s all about the ratio of canopy to soil volume. As soon as your canopy gets too big for your soil system to support, things will start to badly.
Im in 15 gals and that may explain my lack of issues ( so far fingers crossed)
I feel like we can probably take a look at the top dressing? I personally always have bad luck and wacky things go on. Is it possible
Rapid test or soil tester is a wonderful little kit to get. It is a great way to see what exactly you have going on in your soil at least with the top three and your pH.
Using fox farm ocean forest recharge and fish shit. I switched to dry nutes from roots organics. and it took me a few runs to get it down. Trying to follow the feed chart was my first mistake. I ended up having to use 1/4 dose of what’s recommended. also they say to feed up to week 7 and flush 8/9 I have been cutting off the weekly top dressing after week 5 or 6 is giving me amazing results. I’ll still use the fish shit after cutting everything else off. R
I agree, calcium. I’d suggest removing straw and topping up with dry amendments that are heavier in calcium than phosphorus and earth worm castings for available calcium and the nitrogen you’ll need in the end of veg/early flower. Pots are a bit small, so fill ’em up! Ocean Forest is heavy and holds a lot of water, so I think straw is not really helping that much. (not hurting, and I get why you use it)
Screen looks excellent: tight work.
I agree with a lot of the above comments. Bring your pH down a little too if you are using a pH meter. 7 is too high. bring it under 7 in soil. 6-7 is optimal. Cannabis likes a slightly acidic environment. You might be locking out the plant too. Check the run off. Happy growing! , HH
thanks for the responses didnt know where to look to find my post. classic rookie over here. forgot to say they were 6 weeks from seed but only 2 weeks from transplanting into the b.a.s. 3.0 so I cant see how they would be feeling the restrictions of the 5 gallons that soon. soup nailed it to a T. they were burned to shit by the mix and subsequent totally unnecessary top.dress. they are 2 days in flower now and they are growing faster than I can keep up with. all new growth is green and healthy. I hope I wont be chasing my tail for the rest of this run like one post said and have to bottle feed them. its funny I watch cannacribs and these guys are growing 6 foot plants in soil with 3 gallon pots and are killing it. I’ve always used “slow release” nutes but I stumbled on ferticell the other night and. there products look pretty damn good and also happens that build a soil carries most of their line. coincidence? or does Jeremy carry only the best of the best of everything? anyways if anyone has used ferticells line and has any info that would be mucho appreciated. best community of growers out there you guys fkn rock! jdmcnewg over and out
oh and now there is a warning in the description that the 3.0 mix might be too hot for young plants. wasnt there when I bought it…
sh*t didnt see that soup was the one who predicted impending doom for the rest of my run. I hope for once in his life hes wrong!
and just for future reference if anyone finds the same problem . its been all water since with recharge once and a tsp/gallon foliar of epsom salt. did either help? that’s above my pay grade