First heard of Riot Seeds on DG Breeder Series, seemed cool. Been watching Matt Riot’s channel Flanvel on youtube lately after seeing the interview. His videos with Notsodog are really good, but in many he is disrespectful of other breeders such as Colin Gordon, Katsu, Subcool, Kevin Jodrey, and Adam Dunn. Is Matt Riot legit and are these people as bad as he says or is he full of shit and jealous of other successful breeders in the industry?
Been posting on youtube and watching vids forever, but first time visiting the site. I have 20+ years of horticulture and cannabis cultivation experience. I am looking forward to meeting the DGC and gaining/passing on grow knowledge.
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On the last couple videos I watched, Matt Riot also talks very bad about Duke Diamond and even said that Recharge was a knock-off. Not sure what to think here. I have invested money in gear of the people he is talking about and now Recharge too.
I was kinda surprised to see Matt on the DGC breeder show too. I have listened to his show as well and can’t tell fact from fiction. He speaks as though he the official strain historian for the cannabis industry. After listening a few times I stopped because I couldn’t trust the veracity of his stories, as they are vastly different than more trusted and reputable depictions.
Kevin was deep in the cannabis industry before Matt was born. Subcool was straight up and Adam has been there done that. He also knocks Chip McMcCormack and Mel Frank’s seed lines.
A lot of different stories, BS and rivalries out there and most should be taken with a grain of salt. Happy Growing 🙂
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Nickel bags, dime bags, halves, lids and dollar joints, those were the daze
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After hearing all that Matt has said about Duke Diamond in particular, I was suprised that James Bean would suggest that he be on the Breeder Series to represent SHN in any capacity.
I’ve never ran any of Matt’s stuff but I did buy a pack of riot to try out after the breeder talk. Will be doing that later this year.
I’ve ran dominions stuff so I know for sure Duke Diamond is 100% legit and amazing. I’ve had plants from ILGM herm on me right next to some dominion that didn’t. It’s so sad to hear this breeder knocking good breeders.
I’ve not been a fan of his based off of the way he carries himself. As you point out, he tends to get negative on other people for reasons that are pure bias. I’ve not met him, run his gear or done business. Thats just my personal choice, he’s a popular guy(?) but I don’t think the attitude is necessary or helpful. So in short – mainly full of shit.
Welcome in Sunflowers, glad you decided to join the community here 🙂 You have some knowledge to share in that head of yours, I know it!
Thanks Chad,
Not trying to bash the guy , but like I said he speaks very negative about people and products that I have grown to trust and respect. Didnt know if I had been misled or if my instinct was correct.
Notsodog seems like a good dude without all the bias, as well as many of the other guests Matt has had on such as Fletcher from Archive and Inspecta from CSI Humboldt. These are the guys we should be hearing from in my opinion.
I like hearing everyone’s “facts” when it comes to the history of cannabis. There are so many “experts” with contradictory and opposing stories, it is important to hear them all. Take skunk for instance. I believe Karl believes it is from Cali. I believe the guys of eternal love believe it was from Colorado. I believe Skunk VA believes it is from VA. And of course I believe all my fellow New Englanders that it is from Mass G and the Rastas of Mission Hill, for that is where I experienced it. I’m not going to point to specific people who have been named on this thread, but one in particular has done a lot of damage, in my opinion, to the industry. And that man is not Matt.
Hey gotta get your name out there some how. Why not start by talking shit about some of the most well known people in the game. And why not go after a product that’s backed by a community. How much action you think his page is getting. Negative or positive a comment is a comment. Ya know. Fuck em.
Doesnt seem like a well thought out strategy for long term success, but as they say “you the bed, so lie in it”.
Success in breeding is having the hottest line going now not arguing the history of cultivars and other breeders. Being an accepted and successful breeder is when other top breeders want to collaborate with you and work with your stuff, I wonder how Matt is doing on that one? Happy Growing 🙂
Good point. He really likes talking smack about Colin Gordon and Ethos and I can speak from my own experience that his work is legit. Funny thing though, recently listened to an interview of Colin and Matt on the Adam Dunn Show and Matt wasnt criticizing Colin when he is present to defend himself.