What’s up DGC. So I got another question and it’s about roots organic and one of their lines. So I’ve been looking into organic dry Feed and top dressings And I’ve come across roots organics. My main question is if I can Possibly get a review of sorts.
I’ve been looking in to their Uprising 3 part line and It looks fairly promising. Have any of you guys used this specific line or know of anything about them? Or does someone have a better recommendation for me?
My medium is BAS’s mountain OLY super soil with a little more biochar added. I have 2 auto seedlings started and they will be in 10 gal radical bags. So far no nutrients or top dressings have been added to the soil. Just water and recharge and the wee little ones look happy as can be.
I’m looking into these 4 products in the link because I would like to have a good way to top dress nutrients into the soil. Mainly as an emergency backup in case of any issues with the plant. Also might use as an amendment later on.
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/3BNTLU0EGN7TZ?ref_=wl_share
I haven’t used RO nutes, but if I was using super soil I would rather use large pots and have no need to add more nutrition later. If it’s for emergency then liquid nutrients would be a better option.
I’ve actually switched the plan and am going with 10gal instead.
Roots Organics is a good company but they are completely catered towards cannabis which IMO means the products are probably more expensive than they should be for what they are. (That’s the former hydro store employee in me). I believe that they have recently come out with a dry amendement product called Terp Tea (also completely geared towards cannabis) for Veg and Bloom.
With the Uprising dry amendments I believe you need to buy a Veg bag, Bloom bag, Foundation bag (micronutrients), and maybe the Elemental to get Calcium and Magnesium. Thats a lot of bags! With the Terp tea you only need the Veg bag and Bloom bag. A similar product that I have used is Coast of Maine Stonington Plant Food. It is a stand alone amendment that can be used for Veg and Flower. I recommend it and think that using it would probably save you $$.
Another reason I like Coast of Maine is that they started out providing awesome amendments and soil mixes for regular gardeners then expanded into the Cannabis space. This makes me trust their products more because they work and have lasted outside the bubble that is hydro stores and cannabis centric products.
Also you shouldn’t be relying on dry amendments for a quick fix down the line. In organic soils the amendments need time to break down into plant available food. I generally see the results of my topdress 7-10 days after I apply it. Unfortunately this means that if you are reacting to a deficiency it will persist until the amendments are available. If you’re worries about running out of steam in bloom maybe buy a bottle of BioBizz bloom. That way if you see any issues you can hit it with a readily available organically derived fertilizer.
I’m also like 90% certain you are just being over cautious about deficiencies because you’re in a rich organic mix with autoflowers. I’d be super surprised if you needed to add anything to your mix at all. Good planning ahead anyway!
I have the optic foliar lineup as well as calMag supplement and a couple roots organic bottles. I cant remember the exact names tho. I’ve heard good things about coast of main, I’ll look into them more.
The roots organic dry powders are decent, but they use a few lower quality inputs I personally don’t like (Feather meal, greensand, rock phosphate).
Since you are using the build a soil mix, I’d stick with the build a soil system.
Heres a pre-mixed topdress kit you can order from build a soil. Its similar to the Roots powders but uses better quality ingredients and comes with high quality compost already mixed in.
https://buildasoil.com/products/buildaflower-top-dress-kit?variant=44968106834
Usually you want to topdress with it around week 3-4 of flowering.
In my opinion, the EASIEST way to grow GREAT ORGANIC CANNABIS is to combine these 4 products…
1) Build a soil starter kit with soil and a 15 gal pot:
https://buildasoil.com/products/buildasoil-complete-system?variant=8754888474741¤cy=USD&utm_campaign=gs-2018-10-23&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgpbJpqik5QIVD9NkCh16WAsEEAQYASABEgL76vD_BwE
2) Build a soil Top dress kit:
https://buildasoil.com/products/buildaflower-top-dress-kit?variant=44968106834
3) Build a soil straw mulch-
https://buildasoil.com/products/blue-oyster-straw-logs?variant=8779501895797
4) Real Growers Recharge-
https://www.amazon.com/Real-Growers-Recharge-8oz/dp/B00J1CAEIG/ref=pd_cp_86_1/142-2737464-7666005?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00J1CAEIG&pd_rd_r=787001b6-4e8f-4f71-b2eb-1aa9a3cb284c&pd_rd_w=WVq9D&pd_rd_wg=HYbtZ&pf_rd_p=0e5324e1-c848-4872-bbd5-5be6baedf80e&pf_rd_r=X6FCFHVF2WA0E778B4YQ&psc=1&refRID=X6FCFHVF2WA0E778B4YQ
Thanks for the great info. I should have mentioned the roots organic is for my “experiment” tent. Trying new ways of doing things. My main 3×3 is 2, 10 gal radical bags in BAS’s OlY mix. Their top dress kit is the only thing I’ll need. The Recharge supply is well stocked. I’m still handing out those sample packs yall sent lol.
Can you dive into green sand a little more? Or gace any good reading material? That’s the second time I’ve heard that and am clueless about it?
Greensand is a mined mineral that contains a lot of slow release potassium. It’s not necessarily terrible or anything, it’s just not really the best ingredient for the job in this case.
Generally with something you are going to be topdressing I would want to use something more accessible to the plants. Kelp contains a lot of the same things, but the nutrients are more immediately available.
I also generally try to limit the amount of mined minerals I use in my soil. Mined stuff often has some concerns that go along with it as they can be a source of heavy metals and they are not renewable resources. This is also why I’m not big on rock phosphate as an ingredient.
Anywhoo… mined minerals can work well and have a lot of advantages when used properly, but they aren’t great for repeated topressing or no-till type situations as it’s not really ideal to keep piling that sort of stuff into your soil on a regular basis. Especially when there’s lots of better alternatives like crab meal, kelp meal, etc…
Damn..I never though of it that way or even considered minerals could do that. But it makes sense that you wouldn’t want to keep packing it on. I ended up getting the RO Uprising. Going to test it on my gingko yearlings. Same BAS recipe except I mixed in some natural soil from the tree grove.