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What’s UP DGC! First, a shoutout to the behind-the-scenes crew who work to make the show happen, Scotty, Guru and Dude, and the community of growers adding to the knowledge base of folks like me who are just getting started, literally and figuratively, in the wonderfully wild world of cannabis cultivation. I especially want to shout out to all the prohibition growers who worked through the dangers of prohibition, many still doing so, and are contributing to the education of people like me. So much gratitude going out to you guys and gals – the OG’s – Original Growers!

I’m new at growing. I’ve been growing about a year now, listening to the show regularly and building my knowledge base through books, YouTube, podcasts, and, of course, DGC. A few months ago I joined the Parion crew and I just put my two SHN BCG Fruit-Tella females into flower. These are my first known genetics outside of my learning curve, all bag and donated seeds.

Among other things, I think I could be labeled as a “professional” and I’m licensed in my newly legal for medical grow Midwest state.

I finally have questions. They are about seeds. I hope some of the community or even the dudes can chime in.

I’m a journalist by trade and over the years I’ve noticed local law enforcement always did an annual marijuana abatement program, which is well documented in the archives of our newspapers. Every summer the news would publish an article or photo about how many plants the police would cut down and destroy, a practice that has not continued for the past several years.

In talking to some of them about those abatements, I learned that they were often going back to the same places, patches, where these plants would re-seed year after year. Newspaper archives show they’ve been doing these abatements for at least three to four decades.

I spent a huge chunk of the summer looking for one of these patches convinced that the seeds would be an ultra-local kind of a landrace strain that has been re-seeding for generations. We have a crazy amount of pest pressure here and I’d love to breed some locally adapted plants that have a better chance of standing up to outdoor conditions and share them with other growers in my region.

Well, long story short, I finally found one – on right-of-way no less – and managed to get some seeds at different stages of development. It was kind of early in the flower season and a lot of them are not developed, but some of them are.


I’ve been trying to pop them for weeks to no avail.

I’ve soaked them, paper toweled them, and went straight into soil. I’ve got some in the freezer with the thinking being that they need cold stratification – because they have overwintered in the frigid Midwest winters that can reach up to 15 degrees below zero, Fahrenheit. I’ve tracked this particular patch to be at least 20-years-old but I think it could be much, much older going back to the mid 1980’s, however, way more research will have to be done to determine exactly how far back this particular patch might go beyond a confirmed 20-years.

Today, I will try SCARification by loosening up the seed shells with a little sandpaper before soaking them. Maybe they’re too tough to germinate in such a gentle environment and they need a little roughing up.


Before you ask, yes, I have opened some of the most developed seeds and they are full. They definitely have the makings of a baby plant in there.


A bit of observation from the plot, which I spent only a few minutes in, is that the plants were between five and seven feet tall. The stalks were up to one inch in diameter. Some of them got to be so top-heavy they fell over and were growing while laying on their sides. They kind of did LST to themselves. The leaves were thin and spindly. All the females were packing so many seeds the flowers really kind of looked like shit but were about five inches tall from the base of the bud to the top of the bud. On the ground was a lot of plant material – kind of a layer of self-created mulch. The soil was not visible whatsoever. I thought that was interesting. It was so cushiony under my feet it was clear that the ground was moist and lose under there. I wish I would have moved some of the top layers away to check out what the soil was doing. I did not see any mildew or obvious disease and the plants were beaten to hell but healthy and producing tons of seeds. There were not a lot of other plants growing among the cannabis plants. They had about a 30’x30′ area all to themselves. Also, the plot was well protected by trees on three sides, even due south, which I also thought was interesting, and made me dub them the “Shady Ladies”.

I live in an agricultural area, but I’m a transplant from out yonder westward, so I just don’t have the knowledge base many growers of anything do.

If you have some recommendations about every single thing I can try to get these seeds to pop – I’d be much appreciative. I wonder what Mr. Bean would do? 🙂

Ideally, I can have a winter-long side project of breeding these local genetics with whatever else I’m growing and have a bunch of seeds to share with growers in my region in time for next year’s outdoor season and just see how they do.

My questions are:

  • What else can I do to help these seeds pop?
  • What should I be doing with the rest of the seed stalk for long term storage as I’m sure to keep getting better at growing and breeding as time goes on? Keep it in the freezer? Just a dark dry environment? Both?
  • Should I be treating these seeds to keep any pests from developing in my indoor grow with something like peroxide? How do I go about doing that?
  • Is there anything I’m not asking that a new grower should know going into a project like this?
  • Most importantly, should I send some of these off to an OG with expert knowledge to work on and not wait to share the love of this particular strain?

Before I go, thanks to Guru for being into cannabis photography and inspiring me to make a little studio for my plants. I hope to contribute more to the community in the future!

I included links to photos of these seeds in this post, which I uploaded to the DGC media library separately.

Grow on DCG! Much love to you!

Misses M. and the Shady Ladies