What’s up DGC and DGC Crew! Been listening now for about a month a just became a member last week. Loving the show!… This is my 2nd attempt, starting my first grow 🙁 In my 4×4 tent. I’m running a vivosun 315 cmh with 2 100w LEDs, AC infinity 4 in vent system. Temps are around 76°F and RH @ 60-70%. My issue is everytime I bring my Clones home from the store and transplant them, they wilt and the leaves drop. I thought it was my humidity the first time bc I live in an area with low humidity so I bought a humidifier and the same thing happened. I’m lost!!! Help!
Transplanting Help!!!
by Coop-a-Loop | Mar 13, 2019 | Grower Questions | 13 comments
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Yikes. That does look like an environmental or root damage issue. How did the clones come from the store and why transplant them into a solo cups if they are rooted? Are the clones you bought rooted? If not, that’s the issue. Even if they are rooted, were the clones in a humidity dome at the store? If they were, you gotta slowly harden them off. The drastic environmental change will cause this quick. If they are not rooted, they need to be in a somewhat sealed environment with about 80-90% humidity for a few days when starting in a growing medium. After 3-4 days you can start to bring the humidity down to about 60-70%. The humidity is the most likely problem here.
Too cold imho….when you burp the clone box to much in first week you see the same,then they resurrect when dome goes back on and heat comes up…….cold and wet with the humidity…. my girls are usually 82 or so around that age….I might also just use those 2 small led at first….alot of light as well I use T5 until week after I put in solo…I shut down 4 of my T5 8 bulbs as well….sure you will get plenty of good suggestions. I know with babies that small I would bring em home and put em in dome to mitigate shock..I get clones alot and recently took 12 off my moms.. When I buy outside I mimic nutes,temp,humidity and light intensity as much as I can then gradually work them into my program….babysitting lol…just a thought growers love😁
Like jmystro said ,I assumed you would be spray bottling..what did my dad say about assume lol .I do mist at that age then go to once a day with foliar feed when ready….
Red cups are for beer, pots are for pot.
Cups are too small, they have no drainage and using them for growing plants is just a bad idea in my experience.
Ditch the red cups and get some 1-2 gal pots designed for actually growing plants. Preferably some breathable fabric pots or something like radicle bags that allow for drainage and air prune the roots.
Also, whenever you transplant a clone or move a plant into a larger pot, give it a really good watering and make sure all the soil gets watered. This helps ensure there are no dry pockets in the soil and helps your plant’s roots adjust to its new home.
I like to give my plants an extra heavy watering with some beneficial microbes or compost tea after a transplant. In my opinion, its maybe even a good thing to over water a little bit on transplant day, just make sure the plant is not sitting in a puddle of water and you give it plenty of time to dry out before watering it again.
Plants are resilient. I don’t think these are too far gone yet.
I would take them out of those cups NOW and put them in whatever pots you have to put them in. Something other than plastic if you have it.
It might take a week or two but I think these ladies will be fine if you get them in a winning situation.
The cups are defintley not the problem!! 3×3 plastic pot is no diffrent then that solo cup though you have to cut holes for drainage… You need to mimick the exact conditions of where you picked them up. What was the medium they were in first? What medium did put them in?. You want your media to be really wet with microbes but drainage is super important. They look like there drowning/suffocating.
The cups might not be the only issue, but plants that size need to be in larger pots for sure. Not to mention, under/over watering and other root issues like what you described are only going to be made worse by cup related issues like poor drainage and not having enough medium.
I agree with what the crew is saying about unrooted clones and hardening plants off as they adjust to life outside the clone dome but…
if someone is selling you unrooted cuttings or clones that still need to be kept in a dome, I wouldn’t buy them! Those clones aren’t ready yet and they shouldnt be selling them to people. Period.
I get that unrooted cuts are easier to ship, but if someone is gonna sell me a clone from a store, those things better be fully rooted and hardened off to handle life outside of a dome. Anything less is just lazy/sloppy and I wouldn’t get clones from a source like that.
I have 2 foot male plants in solo cups water them everyday no problems that’s why i think cups have nothing to do with the sick plants….besides the fact your gunna have to transplant it pretty much immediatley when roots finally do grow out of the rockwool. Bigger pots defintley make since but his last pic of the clones in the bag dont look like they have good roots popping out. Was hard to see to. Plus beeing in 90% humidity bag then dry.
Hope this helps. When you source your clones make sure they have a solid root system. https://www.strainly.io/ seems to be pretty bad ass.
If you transplanted before roots got going the humidity domes are a must in low humdity. You want like 60 70% humdity first week or two… Also seems like way to much light for brand new clones as stated above…. Keep them in humidity domes for two weeks or in till roots are popping out if you remove that dome to early there toast in dry environment… 5 10% humidity were i am
I think the key point from the comments above is environmental shock. If these cuttings were rooted I don’t think the shock would be so drastic. It is good practice to treat clones as if you just took the cut yourself and slowly introduce them into the real world.
Ya they look like the clone i took and put in aero clone but when i came back next day sprayer was clogged and clone was laying over on its side. Fixed sprayer and sprayed the leaves and it came back to life.
Maybe a silly question..but did you remove these clones from the cubes they came in?
Put holes in those cups asap, and if there wasn’t roots in cubes, take em out and put them in the dome. Good luck and happy growing 🌱✌