When is proper time to add Mammoth P to compost brew teas?
Compost Teas and Mammoth P
by CJ Apao | Aug 14, 2018 | Grower Questions | 8 comments
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When is proper time to add Mammoth P to compost brew teas?
I’d be careful about doing that. It’s okay to use it to make teas but personally I’d stick to a few simple recipes if you’re making a tea with Mammoth. I’m just thinking that if you were to add this to a conventional tea with worm and I like using humus too ; that your microbial populations will be competing for space and food. I would personally try to use about a tablespoon or so of high phosphorus bat guano or something similar. Also about 2 teaspoons of either alfalfa meal or kelp meal. This should make a good 4 gallon solution. Let it brew for at least 24 hours. No more than 48.
Yeah you could simply increase your biomass with using Mammoth and molasses only but I would think you’re going to have better results with the others. Nothing else try both ways and see what happens.
I agree with Bacillus G, the big concern I would have is the microbes in Mammoth might out compete some of the other beneficials in your standard tea if added with everything else. I think you could get around this problem if you waited to add Mammoth until later in your brew.
So for example, if you are brewing for 24 hours, maybe try adding Mammoth at hour 22. This will only give the mammoth microbes 2 hours to multiply and they won’t have enough time to totally out compete the other microbes. Good luck and #growerslove!
Brewing isn’t necessary and probably not recommended.
(Would love to hear Dr. Colin’s thoughts on brewing mammoth tho)
Most of these lab produced microbe products like recharge and Mammoth P were designed to be added to water and applied to plants immediately. While it might seem like brewing would help increase the effectiveness, you are using the product in a way it wasnt really designed for, and the results likely won’t be consistent.
In my grow I am trying to increase the biodiversity in my soil as much as I can. I apply microbe products one at a time (a few days apart) and I dont’ brew them because I am trying to ensure ALL the various types of microbes get an opportunity to thrive without any one species getting an advantage over the others.
Tad Hussey from Kiss organics just dropped a video that should answer all your questions here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tBubF8-Wfg
It appears that in Tad’s experiment, just brewing a tea with distilled water, mammoth P, and their product called Microbe catalyst. So they used 2 oz. of Mammoth P into a 5 gallon brewing system with 1/2 cup of Microbe Catalyst and brewed for different times, 28 hours seemed to give great results. Also, the video, was from last year (my bad, for some reason, I thought it was a new video). If you don’t want to buy the microbe catalyst, you can also use molasses which Tad shows the results of in his video also.
Long story short, if you are going to add Mammoth P to your Tea, you can do so from the very beginning.
Tad’s experiment is interesting, but I don’t think its complete enough to give us the full picture of whats going on.
Are all the microbe species multiplying? or just some? its very possible brewing increases the QUANTITY of microbes but DECREASES the diversity. Its hard to know whats really going on with this sort of thing without doing a lot of science with some pretty advanced tools.
For this reason I prefer to use products like mammoth p as directed.
I save the brewing for my homemade microbe experiments. 🙂
I think, in the video, Tad concluded that when using the molasses, it did like you suggested Soup, and increased the quantity but decreased the diversity, but when he used the microbe catalyst, it increased many different microbe populations, so diversity was still there but it didn’t seem to increase the total numbers as much as the molasses did.
So, if you were looking to increase diversity, use the catalyst, if you just want a blast of a big population of 1 or 2 dominate microbes, use the molasses.
I personally have just been using Earthworm castings or straight compost (and molasses) in my teas, after seeing that video, I may play around with adding some mammoth.
As I recall, Dr. Bell mentioned the synergistic effect of the four (?) species in Mam-P. Changing the diversity by brewing to increase quantity would seem to disrupt the hand-in-hand benefit that the formulated diversity brings us.