The Origins of GG4
The GG4 story begins in 2009 when Joesy decided to take up growing and smoking again after a long hiatus due to working for 20 years as a crane operator, a job which meant he had to pass regular drug tests. As a first step, he joined the ICMag online cannabis forum (International Cannagraphic Magazine, where he went by the name Grizz) and started to make friends. At that time it was difficult to find good genetics, and nobody seemed willing to share their prize cuts. An exception to this were two growers and breeders he met on the forums: Greyskull and Zoolander, who offered some of their elite clones to Grizz. As a result, the three of them met up in a parking lot in Barstow, California to hand over the plants, which were a cut of Sour Dubb (Sour Diesel x Sour Bubble), and what they thought at the time was a clone of Chem D (but was actually mislabeled and turned out to be Chem’s Sister). At some point around the same period, Joesy also acquired a clone of Chocolate Diesel (Sour Diesel x Chocolate Trip) from another source. These three plants became the backbone of his indoor growing operation.
This was from an article covering the history of GG4. The “its a cut” came from 2014 and the article covers this as well. Here is the link to the whole story, https://www.alchimiaweb.com/blogen/origins-gg4-joesy-whales/
So please, stop saying no one has GG4 or the “official” GG4 because its a cut. I worked 4 years making my own GG4 and am proud of my work. Stay high and never stop learning!
GG4 is clone only
Currently,yes. Its not originally from a cut though. That lady was grown from a seed
Not trying to argue for arguments sake but it says in the article that it was the 4th seed that became the Original GG4
“From these 5 or 6 seeds, they ended up with 4 females, one of which was a runt almost identical to Sour Dubb and was later rejected. The three remaining plants were GG1 aka Sister Glue, GG2 and GG4 aka Original Glue”
Wouldn’t that make it cut only if it was from one original bean? Just curious as well because i too have heard that it was cut only for the “original GG4”. I know breeders sell the same cross as their take on it but I thought it was definitely cut only for the original.
I am talking origins here. The one I hear the most is that “its a cut. The 4th cut off the plant and thats why its #4.” Or something along those words. Its not a cut, it was from a bean and now the only way to have the true original is to have a cut. I have my own version of it based on the same strains. I’m not saying I have the original GG4 thats why I started naming mine numbers. #00 is GG4 (my version of it). #01 is my Silverback Glue cross (GG4 × (White Widow × Big Bud). I’m saying GG4 did not come from a cut.
Every seed is a unique individual. Only a dishonest salesman would say they could replicate a unique individual.
Just because you know the origin doesn’t mean that it’s not a cut. You could try and make your own version but it would be almost impossible to create a genetically identical version through breeding. Even selfing and backcrossing an original cutting(clone) will present variations from the starting plant. Not saying you didn’t create a gg4 type of plant and put in credible work but it’s not genetically identical. You should call it gg4v2 or something like that not to advertise it as the original. Mr soul and Duke diamond remade Cinderella 99 but it was not the same as the original c99, he didn’t disclose it until people started growing them out and comparing them to previous plants. Gorilla glue would be the offspring, a certain pheno expression could be labeled a number(gorilla glue #4) but once you label a clone it’s hard to remove the stigma associated with that plant and that name. I understand what your trying to prove but once a clone has been made popular and well known its hard to remove the labeling, even if the pheno traits are reproducible.
I agree with you. I’m just trying to get the ones who think thats where it originally came from when its not. Its not the “4th cut” and it wasn’t a cut to begin with. I get that anyone who says they have GG4 seeds its not the original. I never and have never said I have the “original” or “true” GG4. I label my genetics with numbers, #00 being my GG4. Its more of a best description so you know generally what your looking at. Not only that but I do not sell my genetics only give it away. I have no interest in selling them on any market. I feel others who want to grow good meds should have to pay $40-$50 a seed or more for great genetics. I’m for the community not the profits, I work for a living.
It wasn’t the 4th cut it was the #4 female plant. All “cuts” come from a seed yo where do you think cut only plants come from…?
You can’t make your own GG #4. It’s a clone, a specific plant from a hunt of seeds. Recreating that makes it as much GG #4 as my chicken strips are considered Chicken Nuggets. Even with a cutting, back crossing it will still have potential of passing along and expressing recessive traits. A cutting wont. Therefore they are not the same.
Replying to myself as I noticed I typed that wrong. GG #4 is a Mother. Not a clone, sorry.