The Captain has an entire ship of bilge rats, and only enough weed to go around. I’ve made canna oil no less than 30 times, tweaking it each time, and with some hints from “BadKittySmiles”, I’ve learned how to make the most potent, or let’s say, the most EFFECTIVE canna butter possible. Don’t comment and say, “Can I try doing this or that? Can I substitute this instead?” You can try whatever you want. But if you want the most potent and effective oil, follow the recipe.
INGREDIENTS
1. 1/2 Cup Coconut oil, OR butter.
Use REFINED if you want to avoid a coconut taste or smell. Use UNREFINED if you don’t mind it. Either works just as well. The coconut oil you get should be solid (not liquid). It will melt at about 100 degrees. Again, any coconut oil will work, but look for a coconut oil that is high in MCT’s (Medium-chain triglycerides). You can get coconut oil at any health food store, and most grocery stores.
Look at the recipe you are making. For example, if you are making cookies that call for butter, then use butter. If you’re making brownies that call for vegetable oil, then use coconut oil. For any chocolate candies, you’ll want to use coconut oil.
Use coconut oil whenever possible. It pulls the medicine out of the product better, AND it delivers the medicine to your body better. It is better for you, and can even aid in weight loss!
2. 1/4oz Cannabis bud, OR 1oz frosty trim.
The better your product, the more potent your oil will turn out. Personally, I usually use 1oz of very frosty trim. If you don’t see trichomes on your leaves, they will not benefit your oil. Only use trim with trichomes on it. Here’s an example of Frosty trim.
3. 1 teaspoon Soy Lecithin granules (pronounced ‘leh-seh-thin’)
The soy lecithin is part of this recipe that takes your canna oil, from “good” to “Kick ass”. Don’t skip it. You can get this at any health food store.
Again, if you want the BEST effect, and the best use of your product, follow this recipe EXACTLY. If you cut corners, the effect will not be as strong. You’re using 1/4oz of herb; don’t waste it. If done correctly, this will be about 36, all day doses for an average smoker.
INSTRUCTIONS
- Decarb your herb: Decarboxylation is part of the natural aging process, and makes it much more potent.
- Pre-heat your oven to 215° F.
- Chop up your herb finely with scissors. Do not use a coffee grinder. Sprinkle evenly into a small glass pyrex or OVEN SAFE ceramic dish. Cover WELL with aluminum foil, crimping up around the edges. It is important it is sealed well. Use another layer of foil if needed.
- Place in oven at 215° F, for 30 minutes. After 30 minutes, remove the dish and let it cool, WITH the foil still on. Letting it cool down slowly, allows any vapors to settle back into the material.
- Add the oil or butter and heat: While you wait for the container to cool, Melt your coconut oil or butter in a pan on LOW heat. If using butter, clarify it by skimming the milk solids off the surface.Now Remove your foil lid from the herb pan. Sprinkle 1/2 teaspoon of lecithin evenly over the surface of the decarbed herb. Then, pour the oil or butter over your herb. Mix it up, Cover with foil, and place back in the oven for 45 minutes at 215° F.
- After 45 minutes, remove from the oven (leave it on) and allow the dish to cool for 10 – 15 minutes. Once the temp has dropped and you can comfortably touch the dish, you’ll carefully open it, then press and mash the herb with the back of a spoon. This helps break down the trichomes into the oil, so it can soak up more medicine. Now, add another 1/2 teaspoon of lecithin and stir.
- Replace the foil lid, seal well, and put back in the oven for another 45 minutes. Then shut off the heat and let cool.
- When finished cooling, freeze it for at least 2 hours (longer is fine). Remove from freezer, allow to thaw to room temp (or the shock will break your dish), then place back in the oven for just long enough to liquefy and thin out the oil, for better straining.If you want extra “sleepy” oil, you can repeat the above heating and reheating process again.
- Strain the oil out of the herb: Strain the herb out of the oil by running it thru a mesh (not paper) coffee filter, cheese cloth, or similar. Use a spoon to press on the herb to help press the oil out of it.
Your oil is now ready to use!
DOSING
Use 1/2 teaspoon of oil, in each “portion” you make. 1/2 cup of oil = 24 teaspoons (48 doses)
USING THE OIL IN YOUR RECIPE
If you want to make 12 cookies, and your recipe calls for 1/2 cup of butter, use 6 teaspoons (1/8th cup) of canna oil, and make up the rest with regular butter (or regular vegetable oil).
Whatever the recipe, always work backwards. Determine how many “portions” there will be, then calculate so each “portion” has 1/2 teaspoon in it. Here are a few examples:
12 cookies: use 6 teaspoons (1/8 cup) oil
16 brownies: use 8 teaspoons (1/6 cup) oil
24 peanut butter cups: use 12 teaspoons (1/4 cup) oil
Doing it this way will make your edibles taste better, and for people with a higher tolerance, they can eat TWO.
CAUTION
People with a low tolerance should start with 1/4-1/2 teaspoon.
People with a high tolerance should start with 3/4-1 teaspoon.
It will take a good 45 minutes for the effects to kick in. If you eat a cookie, and after 30 minutes, don’t feel anything, don’t eat another one yet. Full effects are usually felt about 90 minutes after eating the oil. If, after 90 minutes, you still don’t feel the effects, THEN eat another portion.
Do not give more than 1/2 teaspoon to someone who is not a frequent smoker. It is not “cool” or “funny” to give someone an edible and then they get bent for hours. Do not leave edibles out for people (who are not experienced with edibles) to eat. It can make them very sick (spins, vomiting) for about 8 hours. Trust me, I know from experience.
NOTES
If you skip the decarb process, the oil will not be as potent.
If you don’t use lecithin, the oil will not absorb as well into your body, and the effect will not be as strong.
The freezing process, helps the medicine bond to the oil better. Don’t skip this step.
I am so glad you looked into Badkittysmiles method. she is really well versed in the making of oil. And now we have captains modified version. very good.
Excellent guide. Will be using this when my lecithin granules arrive. 🤙🏻🤙🏻
With all due respect, I’m sure this article will help many who would like to play around with cannabis cooking, however; I disagree with a few things and would like to let the listeners know what I’ve dialed down to over the past 14 years and 100s if not thousands of batches.
The first thing I’d like to address: if you don’t have the money to invest in lab testing (which should range from $30-$70 per sample depending where you go and the results will be given to you in mg/g.) and resources to burn while you are in the trial phases (just like growing, you have to be willing to experiment and possibly lose something.)
The dosing is the second thing that needs to be addressed. 80% of the edibles on the market are not thc mg content they claim to have. It was even in the ,Denver post earlier this year: edipure hard candies and gummies (100mg) only tested at 45mg. On the other hand incredibles 100mg bar tested at 140mg. Having to little may not work and having to much may be unpleasant: however, the only overdose affects consuming cannabis is paranoia and anxiety………which can get extreme.
Another thing I’d like to address about dosing is that edible tolerance is extremely different than flower tolerance. It affects the body different because it travels through the back cerebral cortex instead of the front which is responsible for couch locking/sleeping. Just because you may have have a super high inhalation tolerance, digestive consumption is different; the following dosage recommendations were derived from merinol (which didn’t really do anything except give the early medical marijuana edible dosage re commendation.)
Merinol comes in two doses: 10mg and 20mg, so early reccomended California doses were 15mg (the average.) obviously that will vary per person but it is a very accurate base. So if there was a 10x strength bar, that would 10x15mg=150g.
I have some other high tech modifications I can share on the butter/oil making process if anyone is interested. I also formulated Formula on how to dial in on exact mg content and net wt that is in every edible that is be more than happy to share….:….. Just don’t wanna come off as a know it all
Hello!!! Please I would love to learn more from you!! :))
Hello,
I have a very high tolerance for thc, and more product (high grade) than anyone needs. When I do gummies, I do 125mg/day. I make my own cannabutter, and tincture. For me 250 mg is a nice Sunday afternoon with the family.
Please, I want more. Maximize my potency.
Thank you,
Hi love! I’ve just started making medical grade edibles for autoimmune patients (lupus, MS etc.) like myself. It is mostly a learning process and its been great but I would love if you would offer advice as to how I can best increase potency while minimizing flavor…its the whole reason I started! When we are sick we don’t want eat so eating grass is no help!
>>>you have to be willing to experiment
Hey SpecialK, thanks for your comments. You are exactly right, there is always experimenting involved. And like I said about dosing, you must be very careful you don’t make yourself, or someone else, sick. I’ve spent an entire day in bed after eating just one brownie, that had over a teaspoon of oil in it. Too many people think it’s “cool” to give someone else an edible. And you’re right, everyone has a different tolerance to edibles. The most common mistake people make, is they eat some, wait 30 minutes, feel nothing, then eat more. Then they are BENT for hours. A few episodes back, Dude and Scotty mentioned an unfortunate story about a lady who did this, and then wrote some bad press about it.
>>>digestive consumption is different
Yes, it’s not just about “tolerance”. It’s about how long the oil stays in your stomach before it passes though, and how good your body is at absorbing it. However, I have found, the MAJORITY of people who have a HIGH smoking tolerance, also need to consume more oil to get the same effect. And people with a LOW tolerance, like me, only need about 1/4 teaspoon.
I’ve had a few people message me and tell me they used the recipe to make oil, but the oil wasn’t very potent. After asking them questions, in every case, I’ve found out they cut corners by not using lecithin, not freezing it, not decarbing, or using vegetable oil.
Let me point out, that the above article is not intended for making edibles and packaging them for other people to consume. The above is intended for the average person who needs medication, and has a very limited budget. This is the type of patient that normally uses about 1/4 oz of smoke per week, and by making edibles, they could possibly make that same amount of product last 3-4 weeks. Many of these people are disabled, and have little to no money to spend on lab testing.
Of one gets, or grows consistent product, and follows this recipe, they should be able to make fairly consistent oil, with no special ingredients or equipment.
If I where to use 14g in a cup of oil would I use double the amount of lecithine and follow everything thing else 🤔
Thank you for recipe! I am wanting to make cannahoney. Would it be better to use this recipe or BHO? I have honey bees and I want to infuse the cannabis into the raw honey. Any advice would be much appreciated 🙂
My situation. My wife has cancer we have been buying RSO from an licensed seller here in California, I thought why not make it myself. I live in a mobile home park and am wondering how much is the herb aroma is going to be spread around the park as I cook this stuff down?
Also how would you compare doing Butter as you suggest her as compared to the benefits of RSO.
If they are practically the same I could see me doing small batches every few days right in my trailer.
I just found this thread but this method looks really great I’ve made my first batch and it does seem to be pretty strong, mine came out a golden or light brown color instead of my usual green when cooking on the stove. I kept my temperatures where the recipe said. What color are you usually getting? I did use some purple bud.
^^^^ very true and much respect to you once again for all your hard on the site Cap. If I was out in co I’d love to meet up with the crew and share some edibles and flowers.
If anyone out there is open to lab testing and how to cut butter to desired ratio for recipe, here is a formula I came up with that even blew aunt sandy (oaksterdqams cannabis chef).
-First take the gram content of oil/butter in your recipe and devide by the pieces it will yield to get the g amount in each piece.
Example: 1/2c butter is 224g and you are going to make 36
224/36=6.22 So each piece will have 6.22g in
– now you need to find out what the mg/g count needs to be to reach desired dose.
Take the desired ammount of thc you would like in the unit and devide that by the number of g of butter/oil in each piece
Example for a 50mg edible
50/6.22,= 8.03mg/g
-Now you must cut your butter or oil
Take the necessary mg/g you need and divide by the mg/g of your butter/oil
Example to get butter that is 8.03
8.03/19.3=.416. *on this part, round up to .00
-cutting recipe butter………
You take the original recipes g butter/oil content and multiply by the above percent
Example
Recipe has 224g butter
244x.42=102.48g
Final step:
Use the above ammount of medicated oil/butter and subtract that from the original recipe. The remainder ammount is plain butter or oil.
That may never be needed by most but I’m sure there’s some one out there that what’s to dial in dosing.
Once again, thanks Cap, Dude, and Scottie for all the work and keep the great stuff coming
There are a few issues with the methodologies described here.
First, decarboxylation of THCa to THC: It is not necessary to cover the plant material when heating up to 240F. THC and other cannabinoids do NOT vaporize at that low temperature, so there’s no point trying to contain any vapors during oven decarb. In fact, you probably cause retention of terpenes that only make resulting product taste yukkie.
Second, 1/2 cup of butter is approximately 110g. 1 stick of butter = 1/4 lb = 111g = 1/2 cup. A pound of butter is 2 cups.
Third, lecithin: This is an emulsifier, which causes a fat soluble substance (cannabinoids) to be partially soluble in aqueous solvents. The gastrointestinal system will absorb fat content whether it’s emulsified or not when you eat it because bile salts are emulsifiers from the liver that are mixed with intestinal contents during digestion. So I’m not sure why this would affect the potency for anyone with normal digestive processes. Obviously, consuming edibles with a high-fat meal will increase the rate of absorption (quicker onset); this does not mean that consuming edibles without high fat is ineffective, it merely reduces the speed of absorption. By the time intestinal contents reach the large intestine, pretty much all fat content will have been absorbed in non-pathological digestive systems.
^^^^^IMO, The Best material for extracts/edibles is fresh frozen: Therefore it is literally pointless to decarb……… The easiest way to cook is to, place material in pot, cover with water, then insert your fat content. (the water is simply to ensure you don’t burn the oil). Bring to a boil then reduce to a simmer.
I’ve been to numerous industry cooking classes and have a plethora of cannabis books that I currently review. There seems to be a variance in the time frames necessary: some indicating that the longer the cook time, the better.
I’ve tried hundreds of methods and time frames and came to the conclusion that 3-4 hours is beyond adequate. (You will need to stir every 20-30 min and may need to a little water as it evaporates.
When a few hours have passed, you now need to strain the herb out the oil/water. There are many methods of straining from cheese cloth to strainers……. Do not use coffee filters……….If you can dedicate a separate mesh bag from a bubble set, thats butter!!!! No pun intended.
Place the strained liquid into feeder so matters separate……… you can skim it as soon as gains density………I prefer to let it freeze then separate.
Keep oil/butter frozen and thaw to use.
^^^^^About the lechitin: I have not tried that nor heard of that until this post and in Ed Rosenthal’s new book “Beyond Buds” so Cap may be ahead of his times………I’ll def be doing a side by side batch comparison and test both: if there’s no potency difference, i don’t find it worth using! i will update.
The Only time I feel that decarbing is necessary is in alcohol tinctures that will be orally consumed and never heated up i.e.. lighter, oven, stove.
^^^^^QuincyNonME..
you have validity but it also sounds like you’re a veteran……… I believe Capn’s whole article was to lace readers/listeners with food for though of ideas of what you can do with material that may not being used. It may get people to think outside the box and dabble with their own edibles.
Either way, This was a dope article and I like its different people with different views interacting.
Thanks for all the great comments, guys / gals. I also thought the Lecithin, the de-carbing, and the freezing, (tips from badkittysmiles) all seemed not necessary. However, when do each of these things, it makes effect of the oil / butter much more intense, and will allow you to consume less, and achieve the same relief, thereby, making the most of your product.
You’re welcome to skip any of these steps and the recipe still works, but the end effect will not be quite as strong. Heck, you can eat some bud on a peanut butter cracker if you want to skip ALL the steps 😉
Let me just say i have tried many different techniques and Decarbing and the lecithin has definitely made my oil more potent. I have heard of freezing and can not wait to try this recipe. Thanks THECAPN great job!!
Is the cooking time the same if you wanted to do 2 cups of butter and of course 4 times the amount of the good stuff
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first I want to thank you captain for all your efforts sure have learned a lot from the captain’s corner. so I started on this recipe after work today the only modification I made to the recipe was sunflower lecithin
only deferred from the recipe because I’m allergic to soy. It’s in the freezer right now.
can’t wait to give it a try thanks again will give an update after finished
Hey Cap – First, love all the articles, you do some great work!
One question I have out of this article – Do you use dried or fresh frozen material (whether flower or frosty trim)? Have you tried both and does it make a difference?
Thanks.
Okay so here’s review time followed the recipe only variation was soy lithens first time I tried one teaspoon in a smoothie
started feeling the effects within a half an hour nice mellow able to function get completely took the edge off.
I do have a pretty high tolerance so the next time I tried to teaspoons
sorry hit the post comment button. as I was saying tried to teaspoons and wow guess I’m a 2 TSP guy cuz that’s right where I want to be when I’m in pain.
it worked really well and lasted most of the day with a little nap at the end but the best part this when I woke up the next day my joints Felt awesome. I will not go for 3 teaspoons because I think that would take me to a very hairy scary place. thanks again captain
Hardy is absolutely the most legit review as my experience has been more or less identical. Might have to stop toking and drinking.. didnt know weed could be this good!!!
DAY 2.. I couldn’t help wondering what happens if I go a wee bit further down the ol’ rabbit hole.. since I made a fantastic chocolate with this recipe I ended up going a whole lot further than a wee bit.. ate a whole damn cup.. maybe more…
Not 100% on the onset time but let me tell you all I was so absolutely zonked after a couple of hours that I had to go sleep for 4 n a half hrs (had I used sativa that may not have been possible lol) the buzz was way too damn intense..
O ya FYI this coming from a guy who smokes a q a day of some of the most potent stuff in the world 😴
I have the same question as BlaznNative. What if I would like to make more at once. Cooking time if you are making 4x the amount? Using 1 once of shake.
Fragged: >>>Do you use dried or fresh frozen material (whether flower or frosty trim)?
I don’t think it’s possible to use fresh frozen. It would get all mushy. I like to use material that is dried and cured, just like you would store your bud.
Hardy: >>>I’m a 2 TSP guy cuz that’s right where I want to be when I’m in pain
Glad to hear it is working for you. Amazing how it lasts SO much longer than smoking, eh? Glad to hear you worked up to your correct dose. Don’t do like I did and end up wasting an entire saturday, in bed with the spins.
Michelle:>>>Cooking time if you are making 4x the amount?
You can double or triple the recipe, however I would make it once using the normal amounts, so you can “get the hang of it”. If you mess up, you don’t want to waste too much material. Regardless of the amount you use, the cooking times and temps will all be the same.
Happy “Baking”, you stoners! ha ha ha
Going to try this recipe sometime this week.
Have a lot of keif, wondering what ratio I should use and should time/heat be different for this recipe?
My first attempt I decarbed and did butter on pan and strained… effects didn’t seem noticeable. 2nd time I tried water+butter, 4 hours, lots of stirring. . . that one seemed to have worked but still no where near other edibles I’ve tried. Not sure what I can be doing wrong.
Thanks!
>>>Have a lot of keif, wondering what ratio I should use and should time/heat be different for this recipe?
Dylan, you can follow the same basic recipe with kief. Use about 5-7 grams of kief, and use about two tablespoons of coconut oil. You will see the empty trichome husks left over in the bottom of your dish. Nothing to worry about.
Personally, I love making it with kief. The end result tastes better.
>>>My first attempt I decarbed and did butter on pan and strained… effects didn’t seem noticeable. 2nd time I tried water+butter, 4 hours, lots of stirring.
You’re not following the recipe. Follow the recipe from start to finish and it will turn out very potent.
Cool Cap’n, I will be trying this recipe in the next few days. This will be great for canna caps.
Thanks for the great article.
Don P.
Very potent best oil ive made and i will never change the recipe.
Follow all directions people!
i used pyrex baking bowls.
my oven temps swayed almost 90 degrees
so everyone should check their oven temps before baking. Get a QUALITY oven thermometer and watch it to see how yours does. However my toaster oven held perfect temperature and heats up quick and is probobly cheaper to run.
toaster oven highly recommended .
5 star recipe
Cap’n,
This is the first recipe i have ever followed to the TEE and honestly I’m glad I did.
This is the best most potent oil I have ever produced using Kosher Kush.
I actually made about 60 canna caps with it for my wife and can’t wait for her to try them.
Thanks for a very precise article.
Are any of you guys actually lab testing results ? Declabing and all this other stuff is like politics and religion: everyone has their own opinions. 4-5 dgc members have reached out for recipe help and like I’ve told everyone one of them; unless you are going to test your butter/oil, you have no clue how strong it is, the mg content in it, what exact dose you had, and no way to keep consistant doses coming. I’m not to technology savy but I will try to post some lab results on the site and see if I can get it to go. As always, if anyone has any further questions, feel free to email me………. I’ll get back.
New to thia whole process, but will it still be effective if I used mids?
Hey Cap’n. Neat relevant article, appreciate the detail.
One thing I thought I’d mention is that Coconut Oil doesn’t come as solid or as liquid, rather its physical state is based on temperature. If you put it in the fridge it’ll become solid; if you heat it, it’ll turn to liquid.
In fact, it can be mixed 1:1 with chocolate chips and that’s how you make magic shell that hardens on ice cream!
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>>>Are any of you guys actually lab testing results ?
Hello and thanks for your comments again, Special K.
I just want to emphasize AGAIN, this recipe is intended for the regular, “at home” consumer. Strain type, and pheno, will govern the THC content, but most importantly, cooking method and ingredients can make a HUGE difference with the potency and bio-availablity of the oil (regardless of the THC content).
For example, you can take a small bud (with a high THC content), put it on a peanut butter cracker, and eat it. You will get SOME form of effect. However, if you take that same bud and process it, as I have outlined in the recipe, the effect will be 10 times greater, when using the same amount of product. This recipe is designed to give users a long lasting effect (up to 8 hours), but most of all, it makes the MOST out of your material, since it only takes a small amount of oil to achieve the same effect. A 1/4 oz of material can be made to last weeks, instead of days, for a frequent smoker.
Unfortunately, most of us don’t have a lab in our home town who will give us a THC / CBD analyses on the oil we made with a 1/4 oz of weed. If even if we did, this isn’t a case where we would want to pay for that analyses. If you were making and packaging edibles, then yes of course, you would need an analyses done.
As I said in the recipe, if you use the same starting material over and over, and follow the recipe perfectly, you will get fairly consistent results. But it is a good idea to “test” the potency yourself, before making cookies.
Lastly, it is important to remember, all edibles are not created equally. Two different edibles with the same THC content, may affect differently. And, just because one person can eat 2 cookies and feel great… doesn’t mean the second person should start with two cookies. Edibles affect people, differently, depending on our metabolism, how long the oil stays in our stomach, and many more factors. Always use caution, so you don’t end up sick in bed all day, like I did, after 1/2 teaspoon of oil. Meanwhile, the Capn’s mistress (who also ate 1/2 teaspoon) was “happy” for hours!
It seems like only 1/2 a cup of oil isn’t enough to cover an ounce of trim?
I have a question! Probably a dumb one but when you put the addendum of the “extra sleepy” , do you reheat after you freeze it for two hours or do you repeat the the heat and reheat process immediately. Looks like it is saying after a two hour freeze though and then refreeze after the heat and reheat. Then follow up with thawing to be able strain free of bud particles.
I personally do two round but I freeze after the second and combine the first batch. I think it is redundant and a waste of time to freeze twice. Also I crush the herb after the first round rather than removing after 45 minutes.
Just curious, how does baking compare to cooking on the stove top with water. Yours is the first post that suggests baking it instead of cooking on the stove top.
Also, why should one not use a coffee grinder? This is something else unique to your post.
This will be my first attempt and I can’t wait, but I’m also curious about the reasons behind each method.
>>>It seems like only 1/2 a cup of oil isn’t enough to cover an ounce of trim?
That’s a good point, and I usually add a little bit more until I can get good coverage. But I try to use as little as I need to.
>>>when you put the addendum of the “extra sleepy” , do you reheat after you freeze it for two hours or do you repeat the the heat and reheat process immediately.
After freezing, heat it for about 1.5 hours, then freeze again, then heat and use.
>>>how does baking compare to cooking on the stove top with water
Good question. With baking, you can get a more consistent temp of the oil. One of the key parts here is going as warm as you can, without cooking the THC out of the oil. The the stove top, there is no way to control the temp.
>>>why should one not use a coffee grinder?
You can use one if you want, and your oil will be just as potent. However, with a coffee grinder, you are practically making powder out of it. That plant material won’t be able to be filtered out, and it will taste really bad. The stuff tastes really bad already! Also, using the coffee grinder… I feel like there is a ton wasted on the sides of the grinder.
About how stinky should I expect my house to be while using your recipe? And will the smell be gone within 24 hours?
Trying this out tonight ill take them tomorrow after work and ill post the results……. I really hope this works as ive wasted about 1/4 oz of some fire trying other recipes although this is the first ive tried with the soy lechin and the others were crock pot methods!!!! I look forward to posting some positive results!!!!
If the weed goes black in the oil in the oven, is that still fine? It looks burnt — but the oil is still slowly getting darker. It’s quite submerged in the oil, so I don’t think that it really is burnt.
Thanks for sharing!
Hey I am looking to create this butter/oil but with winterized BHO (I have copious amounts of it!). Wondering if any alterations are required during the decarboxylation process? Eventual goal is too mass-produce and package consistently potent edibles for local collectives in my state. Thanks!
>>About how stinky should I expect my house to be while using your recipe? And will the smell be gone within 24 hours?
In my opinion, it is not too bad at all. I would allow 3 hours before inviting guests.
>>>Trying this out tonight
How did it turn out, Lou?
>>>If the weed goes black in the oil in the oven, is that still fine?
It shouldn’t be black, but very dark dark green. I suppose if your material was very old, it might look black. No worries, it should still turn out ok.
>>>I am looking to create this butter/oil but with winterized BHO
Josh, give me a few days and I will post another recipe on how to do this with BHO. It is amazing, my friend! And best of all it has VERY little taste. The coconut oil tastes pretty bad.
Thanks for this recipe!!! It is truely the best ive found yet. I see you said the coconut oil taste bad, if you get the right kind of coconut oil it will not taste so bad. A good coconut oil should be a little sweet with a slight woody taste (like a fresh piece of coconut meat). I use Carrington farms, its the best I’ve found (besides making it yourself, which is not to hard if you have access to a source of fresh coconuts), and also the cheapest. Almost every other store brand I’ve tried has that nasty intolerable taste that I can’t stand, and I’ve tried many because I use it for my teeth so the taste is important haha. Thanks again though broda, this is my new sleep medicine!!!
Thanks Capn!
Ok guys I got a little frustrated after my first few tries….. but i found the sweeg spot!!!! Not sure why but my bud seems to have more moisture than most……. I have to decarb at 250f for 55 min using the same method you suggested covering the container with foil. Thats all it took and i follow the rest of your recipe and Ive got some really potent caps…… thanks so much for this and for anyone having problems keep at it till you find your sweet spot….
>>>if you get the right kind of coconut oil it will not taste so bad
Thanks for the compliments and I’m glad you enjoyed it. It’s not the coconut oil that tastes bad, it’s AFTER it’s infused with cannabis, that makes it yukky! However I’m getting ready to post a new article that will taste much better, and knock your socks off.
>>>I have to decarb at 250f for 55 min using the same method you suggested covering the container with foil.
If you don’t have an oven thermometer, I’ve found most ovens are 15-20 degrees off, so that may be the problem. And make sure your starting bud is dried at least two weeks before using it. Trim can be used sooner because it dries quicker. Either way, I’m glad to hear you found the sweet spot that works for you.
You got it. I bought a thermometer today and it was by about 30 degrees….. im not sure how long the pot I buy takes before it gets to my hands…….. I wish they’d just legalize in my state for christ sake…… some of us are really in need of this stuff let me tell ya Ive had Crohns disease for 7 years and this stuff is a life saver at the right dosage. Stomach pain alleviated for at least 7 -8 hours or constant if I keep up doses.
Really like the techniques used in this article, they all seem to have a reason for being excecuted and I cannot wait to try this! I have been making oil in the oven for about two to three months now. Everyone that tries my edibles says they’re the best they have ever had so this should only make them better! Always used coco oil, just one question. Do you have a reason you stay at 215? I’m going to do it next time because it worked for you but my method is 240 for an hour decarb uncovered on a dinner plate, then put in a mason jar with as much oil as it takes to cover the bud, then in the oven at 240 for 4 hours stirring every hour. At the 4 hour mark I cut the oven off and let it reach room temp, when i get ready to strain I then put oven back on to heat the oil to 240 again to lower viscosity then strain. Like I said everyone loves them but I can’t wait to try your methods!
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Making today exactly as you prescribe however i am curious why you don’t add water to the oil, pot mix. I found the water pulls the water solvable bits that don’t taste good and the good stuff goes into a really tasty oil. What are your thoughts?
Thanks for a great post and comments. Yay!
i am planning on using your recipe and i was wondering if there was anything specific i was looking for in the soy lecithin such as certain percentages of this or that and do they only make soy? If not, do you suggest any other type? thanks for the recipe, ill let you know how it turns out. super excited seeing that i enjoy both ingredients to the max =^.^=
Just found this page due to Wake and Bake Cookbook (great blog, I’m sure recipes ROCK too). Thanks for so much information for a novice butter maker (but 420 friendly since 1971) What should I do if it’s just leaf with a few tiny buds, use more? I love the idea of using a river to press, they are great anyway! It’s really dry, should I freeze the leaf until I can make it? ? Looking forward to using lethasin sp? Thanks everyone for sharing your knowledge so freely!!
I meant potato ricer not river!
>>>Do you have a reason you stay at 215? I’m going to do it next time because it worked for you but my method is 240
240F is about the temp where you may start break down or “cook” the medicine. It will still work, but I would aim for 220 to be same.
>>>i am curious why you don’t add water to the oil, pot mix. I found the water pulls the water solvable bits that don’t taste good
I’ve never tried that. I don’t want the material to get “wet” because then the oil may have a harder time extracting the medicine. But hey, you might be on to something there! Let us know how it turns out.
>>>anything specific i was looking for in the soy lecithin such as certain percentages of this or that and do they only make soy
Any kind of granulated soy lecithin should work fine.
>>>What should I do if it’s just leaf with a few tiny buds, use more?
Leaves with no trichomes on them won’t provide much benefit to your oil, except make it taste bad. I would try to remove them first. If you don’t have enough material, you can 1/2 the recipe.
>>> It’s really dry, should I freeze the leaf until I can make it?
I wouldn’t freeze the material for more than a few days because it might get frost on it. Treat your trim, or whatever material you are using, just like bud. Keep it at 60-62% humidity.
I made this last week according to directions & it was noticeably better than any other ways I’ve made it!
THANK you for all the great tips & views!
I’ve been wondering if it’s ok to store the finished product in the fridge or freezer until needed or what would you recommend for storage?
Quick question…..would this be an acceptable receipe for making lotions as well? If not, any recommendations?
Excellent information, thanks I will certainly try this
Any subs for the soy lecithin, I am so very very allergic to soy but everyone seems to state it makes it much more potent. I have chrons and ankylosing spondylitis (spine is fusing, chronic pain) and only have mids available to me. Any suggestions on a good ratio for mids, for a potent oil, I want to try a small batch first. Thank you
>>> I am so very very allergic to soy
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I searched google and found this: “Soy lecithin does contain trace levels of soy proteins and these have been found to include soy allergens. However, apparently, soy lecithin does not contain sufficient soy protein residues to provoke allergic reactions in the majority of soy-allergic consumers. Many allergists do not even advise their soybean-allergic patients to avoid soybean lecithin when it is included as an ingredient on food products. From this practical standpoint, we can surmise that most soybean-allergic individuals do not react adversely to the ingestion of soybean lecithin.”
Also, look up “Sunflower Lecithin 1200 mg Soy-Free”.
You can make the recipe without the Lecithin. The Lecithin doesn’t actually make it more potent, but it makes the medicine more available to your body, in turn, your body absorbs more of it. So it is more effective with the Lecithin.
>>>Any suggestions on a good ratio for mids
Chop up your mids with scissors and and use a small bowl. Use just enough coconut oil to cover the material. About 1/4 mids to 1/3 cup oil.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
>>>I’ve been wondering if it’s ok to store the finished product in the fridge or freezer until needed or what would you recommend for storage?
I’ve kept it in the refrigerator for 6 months and it seems to be as good as it was when I made it.
>>>would this be an acceptable receipe for making lotions as well?
Funny you should ask that, because when I first started making it, it was for lotions. In my case, it didn’t work for the disorder I was trying to treat. For arthritis, yes, you can follow the same exact recipe. For other disorders, I don’t know. Arthritis patients tell me they notice relief when using it.
After doing 40+ hours of research on canna oil & recipes, I made my first oil & two batches of brownies following your directions & had excellent results. I used 1/4-1/2 oz. (I don’t have a scale) of very high quality bud. I decarbed, used soy lecithin & froze & reheated twice
I used Ghirardelli Triple Fudge Brownie mix, which calls for a 1/4 cup of oil, & made mini muffins w/ paper liners. My yield was 42 brownies & 1/2 of one kept me pain free for 4-6 hours w/ a very pleasant high. I gave some to several friends & it took 1/2-1 1/2 to take them where they wanted to go.
Observations:
1 – An oven thermometer is a must because my oven temp was off by about 20 degrees too hot. Mine cost $7.
2 – I didn’t notice a strong or unpleasant cooking odor while making the oil, maybe because I wrapped foil around the pyrex dish twice & had it completely sealed.
3 – I used generic coconut oil & except for a slight chlorophyll taste, the oil didn’t taste offensive or very bad.
4 – Because of the variables of making brownies including different mixes, yields, over baking & under baking, I’ll make canna capsules next time & will post my yield & results.
Questions:
1 – Since brownies get stale in just a few days, I freeze them. Using the triple fudge mix they melt in your mouth & are delicious when eaten frozen. Either fresh from the oven or frozen that day there seems to be consistent high potency. After they are thawed for several hours & then refrozen they seem to have lost much of their potency. Does anyone have comments or similar results?
2 – Can canna capsules be frozen & thawed without loss of potency?
Thank you Captain, my Captain.
Is the freezing step for 2 full hours necessary?
Sfx – The Captain’s recipe (including freezing over two hours) gave me excellent results. I froze it twice, thawed it twice & added another 1/2 tsp. of lecithin between the two. Yes, I deviated from his directions but I wanted to get the most bang for my buck that I possibly could. A 1/2 oz of high quality bud costs me $150 here in central Florida so I can’t afford to skip steps & wanted to get all of the benefits that I can. Sfx, do what you want, but two+ hours of freezing time worked for me. Time is money, but I’d rather take this extra step & say, “Wow,” than to skip it & say, “Yeah, it was OK.”
The best recipe ever. Came out perfect the first time! Thank you for sharing!
I used Nutiva refined coconut oil and Now Lecithin Granules
I just made some following the directions exactly. Used just over 4 oz of coconut oil to an oz of dry trim and buds. Unfortunately, even with my 6 ton press with the hot material in a nut milk bag, I could only recover 2 oz of oil. Did I do something wrong or is that typical?
I plan on using this for baking cookies. The recipe calls for 1 stick of butter, and it says it makes 36 cookies, but I’m going to make them bigger and make 24. Would they taste bad if I used this butter for the whole recipe, or should I only use half cannibutter and half regular butter?
Also, does anyone have any idea what temperature and time to bake the cookies?
BluesPiano questions:
First of all, thanks for sharing your comments and your experience. It helps everyone here.
>>> After they are thawed for several hours & then refrozen they seem to have lost much of their potency.
Sorry I can’t help you on this one. I have not tried that. I don’t make edibles that get stale anymore, for exactly that reason. They get stale.
>>>I could only recover 2 oz of oil.
You will lose a ounce or two of oil in a full ounce of trim. I usually add an extra ounce or two of oil to compensate for that.
>>>Is the freezing step for 2 full hours necessary?
Yes, if you want to maximize the effect.
>>>Would they taste bad if I used this butter for the whole recipe, or should I only use half cannibutter and half regular butter?
Use the dosing tips at the end of the article and do what you think is best.
>>>Can canna capsules be frozen & thawed without loss of potency?
Are you making hash capsules? If so, there is no reason to freeze them. They will keep at room temperature.
>>>Also, does anyone have any idea what temperature and time to bake the cookies?
This is not a recipe for cookies. This is a recipe for oil
Thanks for the reply.
Do you add the extra oil at the beginning or the end of the process?
What does properly decarbed bud look like?
Mine was still green after 30 minutes. Oven temp was accurate. :/
You the man!!
Hey I just tried this recipe for the first time last night. I read somewhere in the comments below directions that the bud will absorb a lot of the oil so instead of 1/2 cup I used slightly more, closer to 1/3 cup my end result has capsules that are a green tint but i yeilded over 120 00 gel caps. Will this drastically effect the potency?
Closer to 2/3 cup** of oil sorry
I didn’t read the comments first – opps. And made this a day and a half after harvesting outdoor crops. The result is about to go in the freezer. Before I eat, what happens if i don’t let the buds dry for two weeks; what made you say that?
Also curious about the h2o bath, and freezing with the oil/water in order to strain the oil from the bad taste/chlorophyll/trichromes. have heard good and bad about it. Capn, do you have any addtl info since the last post? Or, are you pretty set with this recipe, and won’t consider the h2o alteration?
what if i have purchased product that is already dry? is the decarb process still necessary? my brother is visiting from oregon next week and i’m cooking for him. i have never made cannibutter or oil so i don’t want to screw up. thanks.
The oil recipe works great. And, my wife and MIL use it as a topical for their arthritis and fibromyalgia(sp). Is there any flavored/scented oil that could be added to help reduce the smell yet still be edible?
I just used your recipe to cook and holy shit, I have to be careful with this stuff. Thanks for posting this!
Hmmm 1st thing thnx capt. Im inspired and about to make a batch but nobody has answered the big question?? Wouldn’t you loose thc in the oils the plant material absorbs during the process??
Y arent u using water in ur process capt..???? plz man, my current conclusion is that u all use water nd im dumb for asking but plz verify my stupidity asap… and if my buds cured properly do I need to decarb it??
Aww btw freezing ur fresh harvested bud in a glass jar is a great and easy way to dry and cure ur bud…
Can you substitute the powder litichin for liquid..?
I followed this recipe, made a batch, and refrigerated. My intent is to just eat 1/2 teaspoon doses as needed. I don’t want to cook it into anything. Since it is quite hard in the refrigerator, how do I safely bring it to liquid state to measure out 1/2 tsp. doses? Do I melt the whole bottle and just dip out 1/2 tsp? If so, won’t continual heating and refrigerating the whole batch degrade and ruin it? Thanks for your help and ideas on this.
I am new to this to the point I have only bought medible. This will be my very first attempt to making something myself, but the guy at the dispensary said since I was just looking for it to sleep I should just make it myself as it is too expensive to buy medibles for this reason. Anyway, he gave me 1 gram of hash, can this be Used in replace of the bud/trim? Do I use the same amount of hash compared to the bud? Thank you.
First off awesome site, plan to join. I’ve been making the RSO with 190 for a few months , the return is smaller but very strong, to the point of panic attacks if to much and im an everyday smoker for 48 years,lol. I made this last night using a 1/4 of top shelf medical bud and it didn’t come out as dark green, more lighter than I thought it would and I froze it twice with the extra heat cycle for the sleep meds. Just took 1.5 mil which is a little less than a 1/2 teaspoon and felt it in 45 mins. I have two questions , 1. I can’t swallow any pills or capsules ( throat cancer ) so im just putting a syringe in my mouth an swallowing it, so I won’t be putting it in caps so can this stay at room temp or does it have to be kept in the fridge, i used Organtic Virgin unrefined expeller pressed coconut oil. And my second question is will this have the same cancer fighting effects and the regular Rick Simpson thick RSO oil ?
So how to store it if not putting it in capsules.
Also found a little trick for pressing all the oil out of the material, I took a 60cc syringe and pulled the plunger out and a Volcano solid valve screen will drop right in and spoon your material in the syringe put the plunger in and press as hard as you can , I got the whole 1/2 cup back minus maybe 1 mil.
I use 10 grams bud in coffee grinder until fine. Heat just like directions for 30 minutes. Melt coconut oil and add 1 tablespoon cold-pressed sunflower lecithin and mix. Add to herb and reheat for 45 minutes. Freeze and let thaw.
I use mostly non-sweetened dark high grade bakers chocolate, and maybe 20 percent regular brown 80 percent brown chocolate, and organic raw cocoa nibs (I tried to eat this superfood plain but it tastes like cocoa scented twigs, the chocolat really makes these things tasty. Heat in double boiler until melted and add herb mixture. Pour into silicone candy molds and people have been telling me they are the best edibles they ever had. Oh yeah, top each filled mold with 1 white chocolate chip for beauty. These things are like having a couple of strong drinks an hour until bedtime and are extremely potent! That extra 2 grams does the trick.I don’t like sugary tasting candies but this recipe is just right.
Sorry I’ve been MIA, guys!
Cap
>>Do you add the extra oil at the beginning or the end of the process?
You can add a little extra at the beginning of the process.
>>>What does properly decarbed bud look like? Mine was still green after 30 minutes.
It looks like same, just a little more crispy.
>>>my end result has capsules that are a green tint but i yeilded over 120 00 gel caps. Will this drastically effect the potency?
No, not much. You still need to test potency and bio-availability to your body and dose appropriately.
>>>what happens if i don’t let the buds dry for two weeks
Your oil won’t be as potent, and the mix will be really MUSHY. The end result will probably taste worse and be more green. But please let us know if it turned out.
>>>are you pretty set with this recipe, and won’t consider the h2o alteration?
I have not tried the h2o freeze thing. It makes sense that it would make it slightly more potent, but I can’t believe there would be that much water to pull out.
>>>what if i have purchased product that is already dry? is the decarb process still necessary?
Dry is not the same as decarbed. If the weed is 6 months old, then it is more decarbed than weed that is 2 months old. Either way, decarbing will always make it more available to your body.
>>> Is there any flavored/scented oil that could be added to help reduce the smell yet still be edible?
Keep your edible oil, separate from your topical oil. Add a little pre made salve to the oil.
>>>Wouldn’t you loose thc in the oils the plant material absorbs during the process??
The plant material has the thc oil on it to start with. You’re using the coconut oil and heating it, to transfer the oil from the plant to the coconut oil. Yes, you will lose some goodness in the material when you throw it away. You could eat that material and it would be really potent! But really yukky.
>>>Can you substitute the powder litichin for liquid
I would not, but try it and let us know.
>>>how do I safely bring it to liquid state to measure out 1/2 tsp. doses?
Scoop out what you want on a warm spoon. Melt it slowly on a warm stove or similar. Don’t microwave it.
>>>he gave me 1 gram of hash, can this be Used in replace of the bud/trim? Do I use the same amount of hash compared to the bud?
You can use the same exact recipe for making hash oil. Use just enough coconut oil to cover the hash. I use about 2 tablespoons per 5grams of hash.
>>>I won’t be putting it in caps so can this stay at room temp or does it have to be kept in the fridge
Room temp is ok. The fridge will extend the freshness of it for months.
>>>will this have the same cancer fighting effects and the regular Rick Simpson thick RSO oil
Yes. The process is very similar.
My latest batch of medibles. One half of single chocolate works perfect for sleep dose. I then tried a whole one and it was entering into very high territory, with the attendant stoniness and next morning fog. With high grade bud the cost is approximately 80 cents per dose (with $150 ounce weed). The lecithin really helps in allowing the medicine to be readily absorbed by your system. This site has really helped my tuning in of this medicine.
OK, I did some measuring. My chocolates were made in borrowed silicon candy molds. The one chocolate I tried (shaped like a plus sign (+)) weighed 22.4 g and cut in half is 11.2 g. First day I ate the 11.2 g piece and it worked very well for sleep. The next night I ate a whole 22.4 g piece and it put me in “the can’t remember my train of thought” mode after a few hours and although I slept well I am still groggy after nearly 18 hours, so that is too much even though I am off work today. Remember I used 10 g of good bud and I ended up with 53 pieces of chocolates. The other shapes are: Penguins@
18 g per candy, Stars@ 14.4 g and Hearts@ 18.2 g. I will try to find smaller cavity molds to get about a 12 to 14 g dose per serving. Also, I only had a little unsweetened bakers chocolate left so I used mostly Hershey’s semi-sweet chocolate chips and the candies are too sweet for my liking. Still, I ended up with nearly 70 doses @ 14 g apiece for $50 worth of cannabis. Hope this info helps.
Response to June 9th thecapn & original post May 17th @ndr3a.
Re: non cure buds.
If this is less potent, sign me up! And can I nominate you for the Nobel Peace prize!
But yes like you daid, green mushy and tastes terrible. Also I’m afraid less than 30 days later I have mold, even with the mason jar/fridge storage. So there is that. Now I know to read the comments before I try again! Another batch is on its way. My sprouts popped up yesterday! 😉
OK, I’m fostering to set up an edible business, and I’ve been searching the web for the formula for how much g/mg thc is in each cookie/product. I had my butter tested, (required), and I stepped back and figured the math… here it is: say your butter has 8.0 % THC per g/mg after tested… and you want 50 g/mg per cookie…So 50/8.0= 6.25 grams of butter per cookie to have a 50 g/mg bar. Now I’m making 25 cookies, so 6.25 x 25 = 156.25g/mg that’s how many grams of butter you would need for whole batch to have 25 bars at 50 g/mg each. Look up a conversion program to convert that to cups etc., Good Luck Pirates! Cap’n “O”
2 simple questions..
1) Is Decarboxylation crustal to added potency?
2) After I run a batch of coconut oil, would I continue to add potency by running the same oil again with new material or for lack of a better term “Double Baking”?
Thanks in advance for answering.
Zipp
If the recipe I am making is 20 doses(10 teaspoons). I could just halve this recipe and use an eighth of bud and 1/4 cup of oil, right?
Captain – you mentioned you originally made this recipe for topical lotions. Is the lecithin helpful even if you’re not ingesting but using topically instead?
>>>With high grade bud the cost is approximately 80 cents per dose (with $150 ounce weed). The lecithin really helps in allowing the medicine to be readily absorbed by your system.
Thanks for your comments, George, they really help everyone. 80 cents a dose. wow!
>>>1) Is Decarboxylation crustal to added potency?
George said it above: “The lecithin really helps in allowing the medicine to be readily absorbed by your system.”
2) After I run a batch of coconut oil, would I continue to add potency by running the same oil again with new material or for lack of a better term “Double Baking”?
Yes you would add potency. However, you would be better off to make another batch, it is quite potent already. What I mean is… make two separate batches will produce more doses, than running the same oil again.
Good questions, Zipp!
>>>If the recipe I am making is 20 doses(10 teaspoons). I could just halve this recipe and use an eighth of bud and 1/4 cup of oil, right?
Yes you can half the recipe. But it is better to use the full recipe. Oil is always left in the material that you can’t get out. So the less material you use, the more % of oil you will lose in it.
>>>Captain – you mentioned you originally made this recipe for topical lotions. Is the lecithin helpful even if you’re not ingesting but using topically instead?
This is a great question and I don’t know the answer to it. My guess is YES, it still makes it more available to your body to absorb. Since it works in your stomach, it probably works on your skin too. Please keep me updated with your progress of topicals.
Followed all directions and used a quarter of my best dank and 15.5g of my sugar stems pureed by a coffee grinder in 3/4 cup of oil in a 9×13 pan. Ate 1/16 of it and I must say it is the best I’ve ever done. Used sunflower lecithin instead. Thanks for the recipe. Awesome.
>>>pureed by a coffee grinder
Hi Josh and thanks for your comments. When I first started making the oil, I did the coffee grinder things too. But I felt like too much plant matter was turned into dust and got into the oil, making it taste bad. However, it was some of the most potent stuff ever! So for the readers here… you CAN grind it in a coffee grinder but it is not necessary, and could cause your oil to turn out very green and not the best taste (not that any of it tastes great).
Again, josh thanks. And if you make it again without grinding it, let us know how it compares.
How can I flavor the oil?
Making a new batch and had to come back to re-remember the instructions! My friend who grows my supply threw in a couple of 1/4″ thick 3″ round pressed hash discs (the stuff he scrapes off his fingers when harvesting his buds, sort of a medium/light brown color) to my ounce of buds. This time I have 10 gms bud and 2 grams hash to prepare. I wanted to say that I don’t strain the mixture at all but just add everything to the melted chocolate and stir well. No one has ever complained about the taste and all say it is delicious! Saves the straining step. Perhaps the unsweetened chocolate and cacao nibs mask the “weed” flavor? This site has the best info I had yet found on edible making. The Cap’n is a hero for sharing. I must say that I did the freezing method twice as recommended and it definitely helps. I am just a personal user who will give some chocolates to a few friends but mainly use it for myself. I have found the edibles from dispensaries to taste too stale or “tootsie roll” like for me. Homemade is far cheaper and tastier.
Thank you so much for the recipe CAPTAIN. My wife benefits most from the CBD cannabinoid, does this process extract the CBD from high CBD content strains or are the temps to high?
Your thoughts are greatly appreciated. Thank you.
>>>I read in a scholarly article that decarboxylation is best carried out in a two stage heating process.
Hi Mike,
Once you have made a few dozen batches, following the recipe from the scholarly article you read, AND, you’ve made a few dozen using this recipe, feel free to come back here and give us your feedback. For now, in order to reduce bloat and not confuse the recipe, I’m removing the comments that are based on something else you read. BTW, my recipe uses a 2 stage decarb process.
Cap
FYI spammers… stoners… I delete all non relevant comments, and stories about how RSO healed your grandma of cancer.
>>>I wanted to say that I don’t strain the mixture at all but just add everything to the melted chocolate and stir well. No one has ever complained about the taste and all say it is delicious! Saves the straining step. Perhaps the unsweetened chocolate and cacao nibs mask the “weed” flavor? This site has the best info I had yet found on edible making. The Cap’n is a hero for sharing. I must say that I did the freezing method twice as recommended and it definitely helps.
If you can stand the taste of eating bud, then you will certainly get more yield from the recipe by not straining it. If it really does taste good, you must have a magic touch! Thanks for your comments and also letting us know that freezing it twice helps.
>>>does this process extract the CBD from high CBD content strains or are the temps to high?
I have not an expert on CBD, but yes you can use the same recipe. The process of soaking up the medicine into the coconut oil is the same. At these temperatures you are safe to not “cook” off the medicine.
I’m currently waiting for my oil in the freezer and I was wondering if I can leave it in all night.
I just deemed it necessary to comment…..
I have made canna oil using a cold extraction method (took about three months), combined with some heating to carboxylate after the extraction. I tested my oil last night and it was better than expected. I was content. I then came across this post this morning by accident and decided to add some lecithin to the already made oil, and then heating just long and hot enough to get it mixed in. I tried the exact same dose as last night (about an hour ago) and I can only think of one way to describe the result….. F’ing fantastic!
The lecithin most definitely makes a huge difference! Do NOT skip this!!!
HI Capn
with the reheating for extra sleepy oil are we also repeating the soy lecithin
and adding another 1/2 teaspoon each time? Thank you
I see so many people asking, “What if I do this or that?” I’ve made 15-20 successful batches using Capn’s recipe so I encourage you to follow it & experiment after trying it to see if you can improve it.
I’ve made some minor adjustments to his recipe that have worked best for me & I have a few observations.
1) I’ve tried cheesecloth for filtering but have had the best results using a permanent coffee filter with a screen made of stainless steel & is gold colored. There is virtually no loss of the precious oil.
2) Many have asked about the decarb process & want to skip steps, DON’T do it! I heat & freeze the oil three times & add a 1/2 tsp. of soy lecithin each time. Maybe it’s overkill but I want to get the most out of an expensive product. Yes, it can be frozen overnight with no loss of potency & I’ve done it. I don’t understand folks who want to skip or shorten this step because a few hours of time are worth it & will make a better product.
3) I’ve made brownies & cookies using Capt’s oil but have had the most success with brownies. I use Ghirardelli Triple Fudge Brownie mix & it requires 1/4 cup of oil for each box & they taste delicious. So, I get two batches using Capt’s 1/2 cup of enhanced coconut oil.
4) I make mini-muffins using paper liners & one box/batch yields about 36 mini brownies. One brownie keeps me pain free for 4-6 hours & takes me where I want to go. My friends have about the same results eating a 1/2, one or 1 1/2.
5) I freeze my brownies after baking so they won’t get stale. You can eat them frozen & they melt in your mouth. BUT, if they thaw & you refreeze them they seem to lose some of their potency.
I hope you find some of this helpful.
I forgot to add that I use only high quality bud. Though I live in Florida I have access to medical marijuana from California. I like that best because I can lookup the strains & have predictable results. I’ve found my local growers are only interested in high THC content & cultivate bastardized strains.
I have been researching all night for the best recipe and this seems to be the one. Thank you
Although I used olive oil, I followed the recipie exactly. The oil is separating in the refrigerator. A thinner clear layer sitting on top of a much thicker cloudy layer. Could this be the separation of the olive and THC oil?
When reheating the frozen oil should the oven temp still be 215 F? Also is there a time frame or should I just check the viscosity every so often? Thank You!
Thank you so much for posting this. I’m one of those “disabled” people who take marijuana for the crazy pain. I have CRPS (also called RSD) and cannot move some days without this oil. I have been putting mine in capsules which helps me get the exact measurements I need. Three capsules will give me overall less pain with no real “fuzziness”. I do notice that I tend to be a bit on the sad side when I take the oil but compared to the electrical pain that shoots through my body in a minute-by-minute basis, it isn’t a big deal. Thank you for helping us to make the best oil. I have tried a lot of experiencing and I cannot smoke. It made me choke and cough and I just couldn’t make myself do it on a daily basis. Vaping was okay but didn’t seem to work long term. Oil is amazing. I take the three capsules and within an hour and half, the effect sets in. The overall tenseness and pain lessens and I can think again. The result lasts for about 3-4 hours and so I time these throughout the day. The only truly terrible pain is in the mornings since I don’t wake myself up to take these or if the capsules perhaps take a little longer to set in.
>>>does this process extract the CBD from high CBD content strains or are the temps to high?
Most bud out there is high in THC but low in CBD. I buy the CBD oil from PlusCBDoil.com and add a pin head dab to my oil at dose time and it make’s a big difference. The straight oil will hit me to hard and then get the panic feeling if I take to much but adding the CBD oil to my regular oil makes it sleepy oil, in 45 min’s i’ll be nodding like I took a lude, lol Plus the CBD has great medical values as far as calming nerves , and it’s the CBD that also helps people with seizures.
I can’t wait to try this recipe! I am wondering if you have a recipe for making the kind of oil you can smoke or use in a vaporiser. Thanks, JA 🙂
I’m using some co2oil in an edible. having trouble dissolving the Soy L,w/coconut oil. Any tips for what I’m trying? Thank you!
>>>Have a lot of keif, wondering what ratio I should use and should time/heat be different for this recipe?
Dylan, you can follow the same basic recipe with kief. Use about 5-7 grams of kief, and use about two tablespoons of coconut oil. You will see the empty trichome husks left over in the bottom of your dish. Nothing to worry about.
Personally, I love making it with kief. The end result tastes better.
I have a question regarding the above question and answer. Wouldn’t 5 to 7 grams of keif be roughly equal to 1/2 oz of bud since the keif is essentially just concentrated resin? That being the case with only 2 tbl of oil (1 oz) your oil would be roughly 4 times stronger than normal. So a 1/2 tsp dose would be like taking 2 tsp of the regular recipe.
If I am off track here let me know and in what way please.
i was decarbing my herb and its now black. is it still usable?
This site rocks, Capn! I tried your recipe but I’m not too near any hippy/health food stores so I threw in about 4 soy lecithin capsules that I bought at a drug store. My non-analytical response is that the capsules definitely made a difference. I will definitely put the granular lecithin on my shopping list to try next. Thanks, dude!
For all who have attempted this recipe, would it be worth using 1/4 doses, or stick with 1/2 & 1 tsp doses? In reference to casual users.
Obviously open ended question that depends on many variables, just looking for general opinions.
Using myself as a base line wont work, and the person these are for (ill family member) will not be here for a few weeks. I’m going to see if some friends want to be test subjects, just really trying to figure if the 1/4 tsp is worth bothering with or not.
I DO NOT WANT someone to overdo it, which is why I’m think to err on the side of caution, looking for functional working awareness (which yes I know is going to change from person to person).
Is that just for pain relieving or will it get me high? I have never seen any recipe like that and since I have tried several recipes and none of them worked I will definitely try this one. I will use a coconut oil I made myself at home.
I’m from Brazil and I will have to skip the lecithin part for two reasons:
This thing is really expensive down here (I could buy 100grams of marijuana with the cash) so does coconut oil and that is why I have made myself
The second thing is that I have never felt the effects of edibles using many other recipes. So I will follow this one and see how it goes, if it works well without the lecithin I will definitely buy it next time.
Thank you, by the way.
I love this wonderful thread. I’m going to experiment, but first I want to share some random observations I hope you will find interesting.
Fist Decarbing:
It is not absolutely necessary to decarb if the butter or oil is properly heated. Water helps prevent the burning of the THC in the cooking process and is a great tool if one wants to avoid decarbing time.
That said why not get the most out of your herb and decarb then dissolve in any lipid or MCT filled food or drink.
Second Covering:
I want my sweet and savory edibles to be delicious so I think avoiding airtight covering in oven or on range is important. I understand the need to save herb from burning in an imperfect oven, but airtight foil is not the way. I would suggest slits in the foil at the very least.
Third Lecithin:
Lecithin is probably also unnecessary but why not make sure as much THC emulsifies as possible. I know my liver isn’t what it used to be.
Last Everyone:
I hope you all try new recipes with unexpected foods yet to enter the edible kingdom. This is an awesome article and discussion, but has anyone who tried this recipe with coconut oil gotten a product with a fatty layer on top and liquid on bottom?
>>>i was decarbing my herb and its now black. is it still usable?
how warm did you go? Remember to use a oven thermometer to make sure it doesn’t get too hot. You may have cooked it.
>>>would it be worth using 1/4 doses
Kandi, yes, I would rather eat one cookie, wait 90 minutes and then eat another if I need it.
>>>Is that just for pain relieving or will it get me high?
The effect depends on the strain.
>>>why not get the most out of your herb and decarb
If you don’t decarb, you are wasting product.
>>>airtight foil is not the way
If you don’t keep it covered, the material may dry out too much, and the end product won’t be as potent.
>>>Lecithin is probably also unnecessary
Lecithin will help your body absorb the medicine much more readily. If you don’t use Lecithin, again, you’ll need more oil to achieve the same effect.
I see that several people are making canna caps with this recipe. How are you loading the capsules? Do you just put the oil in an empty capsule? If so, what are you using to fill the capsule? Or are you mixing the oil with a thickening agent to use a small capsule machine? If so what are you using to thicken the oil?
Thanks
Hi. Can I put about half a teaspoon of the oil into a cup of hit white or green tea with a dash of honey? Cheers.
>>>How are you loading the capsules?
With a baby medicine syringe. NO need to thicken it up.
>>Can I put about half a teaspoon of the oil into a cup of hot white or green tea with a dash of honey?
Yes, it works and will deliver the medicine fine. It is a little difficult to get the oil to mix with the water.
I wondered if you should adjust temperatures / decarb time / cooking time for smaller amounts
thanks
Sounds like an awesome recipe going to try it now. However I would like to add that Soy Lecithin should NEVER be used. Soy is a GMO product so please be sure to use Sunflower Lecithin ONLY!!! Lecithin also helps cross the blood brain barrier for even better efficiency. You can find Sunflower lecithin in liquid or granule form in most health food stores 🙂 I prefer the liquid as you just melt it right into your coconut oil for even distribution.
My usual method has been 2 oz of weed and 2 cups of coconut oil, 2 tbsp of lechiten,.. into the magical butter machine.. Yield 2 cups of oil when strained. I keep the leftover strained stuff and add it into the next batch.
My cookie recipe calls for 1 cup of butter..I use a whole cup of my canna-oil in it…I get about 45 medium size cookies and 1 seems to be potent enough for the needs..
The calculation to figure out how many grams / cookie is too mind-boggling for me..
In step two you put
“Then shut off the heat and let cool.”
Does this mean to leave in the oven after turning it off while it cools down or take it out of the oven and turn it off.
>>>I wondered if you should adjust temperatures / decarb time / cooking time for smaller amounts
No, use the same times.
>>>use Sunflower Lecithin ONLY
I have only used Soy. So I cannot promise the result will be the same if you use Sunflower.
>>>In step two you put
“Then shut off the heat and let cool.”
Does this mean to leave in the oven after turning it off while it cools down or take it out of the oven and turn it off.
Either one is fine. Just be careful not to shock your dish and crack it.
NOTE:
For those of you who tell me about your other recipes, using crockpots or whatever, that’s great. However, in order to keep this article on track, non relevant comments will be deleted. I’m happy this thread has so much action, but I need to keep the bloat down and stay focused on the subject. If you have questions about other edible methods, email The Dude, and he will fwd to me.
First off, I just want to say that every other time I attempted to make edibles I always cook it too little or too much. This recipe helped a lot with that and making me feel comfortable using so much product. Don’t listen to the negative feedback on here, if you’re a beginner at this then you should follow this recipe step by step. I did the additional step adding another half teaspoon of lecithin, oh man. Have fun guys!
Thanks for the recipe. I made it once, almost exactly as laid out here. I think I decarbed a little hotter than I should have. 1/2 teaspoon was the perfect amount for a nice dose. I could have had more but didn’t need to. I have trouble sleeping and this has been a huge help and much healthier than drinking some booze to help sleep.
That being said I am about to make another batch. I will decarb exactly as instructed here.
My main question is about estimating the mg of THC consumed. I know this varies by strain and other factors but do you have a base line? For example using this method generally extracts 80% of the THC available in bud? That way, if we know the THC % of the bud we can calculate how much we’re consuming. I know some edibles I’ve purchased have been labeled as 10 mg of thc which has been perfect. They also kicked in more quickly than the oil.
Do you know why it takes longer for this oil to kick in than cannabis infused gummy candy I’ve purchased at a dispensary? The candies take about half an hour to kick in and the oil has been taking 1-1 1/2 hours. Could that be due to decarbing a little too hot? I went for a little while around 200 then at 300 for a few minutes. I don’t recall the exact temps and times I just know I went at a higher temp that in your instructions for part of the process.
Thanks again!
>>>if you’re a beginner at this then you should follow this recipe step by step
Amen, brotha!
>>>1/2 teaspoon was the perfect amount for a nice dose. I could have had more but didn’t need to. I have trouble sleeping and this has been a huge help and much healthier than drinking some booze to help sleep.
That is great feedback, thank you!
>>>My main question is about estimating the mg of THC consumed.
It doesn’t matter, because it’s all about the delivery method. The same mg of THC, using this recipe, will be 5x more potent than using a less effective recipe. Don’t get hung up on THC content. Also, edibles affect people differently, because of their metabolism and many other factors.
While 1/2 tsp may be good for you, it might not even phase another person, and would put me sick in bed for hours. You did well by finding the right dose. What is good to know, is that if you make it again using the same recipe, the final result should be very similar.
>>>Do you know why it takes longer for this oil to kick in than cannabis infused gummy candy I’ve purchased at a dispensary?
Decarbing at 300 could literally “vape” the material. It’s possible some of it got vaped up, but obviously it’s still working. Decarb at 215 next time and then start with 1/4 tsp.
Excellent point on the THC. One reason I wanted to know the mg of THC is to be able to compare to edibles at stores. For example if I know 10 mg is what it takes to get my desired effect, if it would translate to 10 mg of store bought edibles. Though it’s not apples to apples as you mentioned. It’s not just like saying your homebrewed beer is 6% ABV, learning how much of that it takes to get the desired level of intoxication, and then scaling that up/down for buying beer commercially. Like you said it’s the delivery system. Interesting..The other reason I want to know is because I want to know that I’m getting the most out possible and view it a bit as a score on how well I did making it, even though it may not REALLY matter 😛
This time I used my toaster oven which goes from 200 to 225 and nothing in between so I went with 225, hoping that 10 degree increase wouldn’t hurt (and that the toaster oven is even accurate). After freezing and warming up again I put 1/2 teaspoons in a bunch of molds and will try it out tonight. Aside from the temp, this go round I followed the process step by step. Thanks!
I’ll also start with 1/4 teaspoon this go round.
I’ve never has luck with edibles until I tried this recipe, Used ABV and I’m blazed af.
It’s been a while since I’ve commented but I have an important discovery. On my 3rd batch I stupidly thought I remembered the recipe and put in a whole cup of coconut oil rather than 1/2 cup as recommended. For some reason everyone (including myself) found the potency very much higher using the exact same amounts of other ingredients as before. I also find that eating about half of my usual dosage caused me to feel the effects faster (?) and I slept better than ever with absolutely no morning after side effects. I get up between 2:30 a.m and 3:30 a.m. nearly everyday and don’t have any evidence of “weed hangover” whatsoever. This means I am getting a little over 100 doses per 11 gms of cannabis! I have experimented with eating a full 16 gm weight chocolate and the effects took longer to kick in and I was a little groggy the next morning. I don’t know why but it is very economical and works for me. All measurements are done with a Dial-A-Gram triple beam scale and my cannabis has been the same exact type every time (My friend vacuum seals his crop and it is now over 2 years old but still works great. At $150 an ounce it is cheaper than his new crop which is $200 per ounce and I am rather a cheapskate). This site has absolutely the best recipe out there for edibles bar none. A big thanks to the Capn.
I’m not sure what I did to mess this batch up.. I may have inadvertantly made the “extra sleepy” version. I followed all steps (225f instead of 215 though). Used 14 gram of bud and 1 cup of the same kind of coconut oil pictured above. I THINK it was a little lighter in color than the last batch. After freezing it overnight I warmed it up just enough to liquify it and put it into some molds. I put the molds in the freezer and when I tried to get them out most of them broke.. I realized they were too thin (1/2 tsp doses) and brittle, and the molds had shapes that made them weaker too (stars with beams.. it’s what I had). I had some molds of just circles and those didn’t break. I warmed up the ones from the molds that were breaking..again.. and made some more that were just circles. I didn’t have as many molds of those though and didn’t want to spend the time to mold, freeze, remove, pour more in, etc.. So I made 36 good molds, poured the rest in a container, and froze it.. Now as I write this I realize that I essentially heated them up twice after freezing, and froze them twice after that as well..
I took 1/2 a teaspoon (I know I said I’d try a quarter..) and after about 2 hours I just passed out for about half an hour.. woke up.. felt a little high but not much. I went to bed and slept really well.
Now my question(s):
So..with all the heating and freezing, do you think I just made really strong sleep medicine? I didn’t bring it up to 225 again..Just heated it on the stove enough to strain and mold. Do you know what the additional heating and freezing actually does to make it more “sleepy”?
>>Excellent point on the THC.
Hey Steve, I edited your comment as requested. And yes you are correct. The MG content may be a general guideline but definitely not a “fore sure” way to meter your dose. But I would certainly be interested as to how a “store bought” edible compares.
>>I’ve never has luck with edibles until I tried this recipe, Used ABV and I’m blazed af.
Are you still blazed? the effects last a long time.
>>>>put in a whole cup of coconut oil rather than 1/2 cup as recommended. For some reason everyone (including myself) found the potency very much higher using the exact same amounts of other ingredients as before
George, thanks for your comments. One thing to keep in mind, is that you might be getting “better” at making the oil. I found that as I got better at it, it became more effective too. And it may also be the way you are eating it, or what kind of food you are eating it work. Regardless, that is great news you are sleeping well and no hangover. Your “weed guy” isn’t going to like you anymore because you don’t come around after making the oil ha ha.
>>>Do you know what the additional heating and freezing actually does to make it more “sleepy”?
Yes I have seen the same behavior. The longer you cook at 220, the more sleepy it will get. So you heated it one extra time. The other possibility is that this batch is stronger and it simply knocked you on your butt. Try 1/4tsp and let me know how that works. The good news is you