So have any of you tried the Malawi Cob Cure method? You apparently can sweat the harvested wet weed in plastic bags and then vacuum seal them at the right time. I guess it’s basically fermentation and doesn’t mold if done properly. It also is supposed to elevate the bud to be more psychedelic and you can chew it and get a great affect.
Also, what is THC acetate (THCa) exactly? and how impractical is it to make? I read some info on it from Cannabis alchemy, and it seems extremely dangerous and hard to find the chemicals to do it. But it also says it doubles the potency of the THC, what’s the scoop on this?
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Apparently same process used to turn morphine into heroin. But looks extremely dangerous like you mentioned. If you had the equipment to do it you would be making heroin due the risk reward aspect of this process. Gotta get paid big bucks for risking your life.
As far as the fermented cannabis I’ll pass lol. Not sure what the anaerobic microbes are doing to the thc to make it different but they must be changing it in some way. Like yeast turn sugar into alcohol. But extremely risky as it mentions high risk of mold. Possibly testing in small batches to figure it out but still.
They are leaving out some important information and this procedure will not work. You must heat with an acid. See below. A simply organic chemistry set will do.
As for THC-O- acetate – you are talking fresh material (THCA) with the carboxylic acid group, not active. And instead of decarboxylating it by drying and heating via vaping or smoking. You are taking the THCA carboxylic acid groups and the acetic anhydride to form an ester with the phenolic hydroxyl (OH).
Since carboxylic acid and hydroxyl groups are polar and hydrophilic, small amounts of THCA are soluble in water. They can be made insoluble at a low pH.
When THCA is converted to THC-O- Acetate, the polar C-OH becomes C-O-CH2C=O-CH3. The carboxylic acid group is hydrolyzed by heating with H2SO4 which reacts with excess anhydride to produce acetic acid which reacts with regular THC at the hydroxyl group to form THC-O-Acetate.
THC-O- Acetate is activated in the body. I have no experience ingesting this compound. However, other then different ADME properties Absorption, Distribution, Metabolism, and Excretion. I believe the effect should be the same as ingesting high quality decarboxylated THCA. I believe it’s not more potent – it’s just you don’t get complete homogenous decarboxylation by drying and burning also, some THC is also broken down via oxidation and burning. The THC-O acetate method is complete and homogeneous.
For advanced DGC you can make synthetic THC.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0040403901935440
wow, thanks for the organic chemistry lesson Stickyfingers , you have a grasp on something I dont for sure
thanks for the explanation . I’m not interested in applying it but it is an interesting topic from on old school book.
God damn dude! Just when I thought I knew some shit about the dank, Sticky Fingers comes by and drops off a dump truck full of humble pie to eat. Tip of the hat to you! Now, let me get my notebook and write this shit down….
I’ve been reading about his cob cure for some time. I found the link below very useful. The process seems very doable.
https://www.420magazine.com/community/threads/tangwenas-malawi-style-cob-cure-fermented-cannabis.443405/
I have nothing uselfull to add here except it sounds fucking discusting
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So it is like rotted weed chewing baccer that makes you trip. Hmmmm I would try it if someone made it properly. Probably wouldn’t ever attempt myself.
More like fermented cannabis. Not at all like rotting. It’s like saying drinking beer is like drinking molded sugar water. Try the link I put up. It is very diy using household items. As far as fear of smoking moldy weed, I’m pretty sure one can tell if the process did not go as wished. If it is done right it will not at all be disgusting as stated above. It will elevate your high to a new level.
*drinking beer is like drinking rotted sugar water
I see what you are saying, rotted wasn’t the right word. I will check the link its pretty cool stuff. I love learning about all the different things that can be done.
I thinks it’s a worthy look at fermenting bud, as if you look at kimchi or sauerkraut, it enhances the ability to prevent sicknesses.
so medically it could be a lot art that enhances the buds ability to be used for different bacterial or viral sicknesses. seems interesting.
so if y’all have a crop to pull soon and have a vacuum sealer check out the Malawi Cob Cure thread on icmag.
It’s the way Thai stick used to come back in the day. And some Mexican brick weed, though not on purpose.
yep I never had the pleasure of seeing that far back in the day but I always wondered how they made Thai sticks , but when I saw this I knew.
would be cool to grow lollipop style solid single colas to produce prime colas still on the stick and make some Malawi Cob from them.
Not to mention dipped in opium lol!
it was probably packed so tight without oxygen and it likely had a bit of moisture in it from those humid environments to ferment it a bit. Interesting
Hey guys. I was SO excited to find this post from a google search! I love Dude Grows and recommend your podcast in my cannabis mewe group. I’m pretty easy to find if you do a search on malawi cob. Anyways, I was really hoping to find more member feedback from DG on the malawi cob and was surprised it was so easily discarded.
I just found out about it barely 3 weeks ago and did a deep dive for information and have a few links to share. The 420magazine commented on by “Doc Browns Green Thumb” is a really great source! Super nice charts! And is kinda like a v2.0 of the original information that can be found here that is scattered, but fun reads:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8147537&postcount=2118
It is an awesome documentary with LOTS of pictures, experiences and etc.
Then, I was able to find 2 great videos on it on youtube and it got rave reviews from one of the icmag fans saying the OP would have approved. (He’s sadly apparently deceased now.) Here’s the links to that below
Malawi Cob Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4UOtS6bVRI
Malawi Cob Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qELVKX62N9g
I’m in an extremely illegal state and for a couple of reasons, I can’t grow right now. But I am dying to do a grow just to be able to try this out. I would LOVE to see DG test out a couple of ounces and see how it comes out. She has really cook booked the process down to a T.
I can already feel people rolling their eyes, MOLD DUDE! They vacuum seal it and have a whole process. Vids aren’t but 2mts a piece. Worth a watch!
Best of luck and would love to see a podcast on it. Why not right? Thanks for everything you all do!
And question. The title of this post is:
MALAWI COB CURE AND THC ACETATE
Is that what is actually happening during the fermentation?